• dohpaz42
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      475 months ago

      Keep it simple and call it “healthcare”. No need to qualify it with anything.

      • @BossDj@lemm.ee
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        295 months ago

        The ones who still think Obamacare and ACA are different things definitely need a catchy label and marketing if they’re gonna vote for it.

        Or just lie to them, their own leaders have learned it doesn’t matter what you tell them. Call it the “everyone gets a puppy” Bill or whatever. Then tell them they got a free puppy. They won’t know they didn’t.

        • @Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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          105 months ago

          This is exactly what we need to do. Its literally the only way to combat a populace that simply does not want to be educated. Just fuckin lie, then post your actual platform online. People who actually care will read it, everyone else will think that the dems are campaigning on eliminating the sun to cool the earth during the summer, and during the winter well just tow a new sun to orbit.

          • @BossDj@lemm.ee
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            15 months ago

            That was a bit of hyperbole. But we could always say “if you didn’t get a free puppy, it’s because Trump and his Republicans hate puppies”

    • @Sc00ter@lemm.ee
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      95 months ago

      Thats the problem. The media and too much of the usa wouldnt accept “socialized healthcare” becuase that sounds like socialism and enough people arent educated enough to know what that really means

    • @credo@lemmy.world
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      45 months ago

      Insurance is already a socialized program- just a private one. Creating public health care simply removes the profit incentive.

  • Maple Engineer
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    205 months ago

    To be clear, it isn’t free healthcare. In Canada we pay our taxes and the government administers the health insurance system. In Ontario where I live it’s the Ontario Health Insurance Plan. It covers most doctors visits and most treatments. I have Hodgins Lymphoma and am nearing the end of my treatment. Dozens of doctors visits, CT scans, x-rays, an echo cardiogram, a respiratory study, two PET scans, and all the drugs and the only thing I’ve paid for out of pocket is parking, and the hospital where I’m being treated just put in free parking for cancer patients and gave me a parking pass. Our government negotiates the price of drugs at the national level and regulates drug prices. Companies aren’t allowed to raise the price of a drug that is on the market unless there is a corresponding improvement in benefit to the patient. They can’t add a coloured band to a capsule, rename the drug (Losec to Prilosec, for example) and double or triple the price. Generic drugs are the same. That’s why epipens are $100 here and not $600 like in the US. There has been no substantion improvement in their benefit to patients so the price can’t go up.

    Universal healthcare isn’t perfect but 22 of 23 highly developed countries in the world have it and the US profits before people system is grotesque.

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆
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      145 months ago

      I don’t think many Americans in favor of universal healthcare think it’s going to cost nothing. Of course, taxes will increase. But we already pay for private healthcare. Most of us via a payroll deduction.

      • Maple Engineer
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        25 months ago

        We do as well. I have private coverage for things that OHIP doesn’t cover like a private hospital room, massage, physio, and other therapies, eye glasses, dental, and prescription drugs. It’s much, much cheaper than in the US because it is single payer and heavily regulated.

      • @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        15 months ago

        we not only pay for healthcare, compared to what the world pays, we pay for gold plated health care and get delivered garbage that bankrupts us.

  • @HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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    195 months ago

    In countries with government provided healthcare for all, we still do dance marathons to pay for bits of it. Ugh maybe it’s just the UK.

    • @Demdaru@lemmy.world
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      25 months ago

      In my country there are multiple foundations and charity events, but these mainly aim to equip hostpitals rather than fund care. New equipment costs a lot in quantity hospitals need, and on gov money it would slowly trickle in. Meanwhile such events and foundations can greatly boost the speed of modernization.

      There are aims to help with care funding, but that’s pretty much explicitly cancer cases where we need top-of-the-line treatments that are not available on public healthcare.

  • @Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    I think their issue is everyone getting it. In American culture and Christianity, love must be conditional.

    Only correct behaviour would mean you get rewarded/supported.

    Their issue isn’t giving it away for free, their issue is not being able to classify certain members of society as a underclass that don’t deserve anything unless they conform to their values.

    So it’s about power and control. Universal health care means you have no power over these individuals and what values they live by.

  • 2ugly2live
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    65 months ago

    They don’t want the possibility of helping everyone, there could be someone they don’t like in there!