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𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world · 10 months ago

It's been 30 years and I still can't get over the fact that the French word for "potatoes" is "ground apples." Have The French never had an apple?

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It's been 30 years and I still can't get over the fact that the French word for "potatoes" is "ground apples." Have The French never had an apple?

𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world · 10 months ago
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  • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
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    The English for “ananas” is “pineapple”, did the English really think they grew on pine trees?

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      • raef@lemmy.world
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        Spanish conveniently missing

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          And anthough it might be correct, I’ve never head anyone say mañana in Basque. We just use piña(pinia)

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          Here’s how the creation of the graphic went:

          • Create a binary
          • Ignore vast majority (of people working with subject)
          • slap together chart, cherrypicking
          • Gloat
      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        Fun fact: no one knows why us squid are called that in English and no other language calls us anything like that.

      • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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        i call bullshit. its “abacaxi” in portuguese, not nanana

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      “Apple” is Old English for “fruit”, not specifically apple.

      And apparently “pineapple” for the tropical fruit predates “pine cone”, OE used “pine nut”.

      Earliest use of “pineapple” is 14th century translation for “pomegranate”.

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      10 months ago

      Probably to avoid confusion with bananas?

      • x00z@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Oh you can’t even imagine the amount of times I put a pineapple up there.

        • slackassassin@sh.itjust.works
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          10 months ago

          Here i go, imagining again.

    • Shapillon@lemmy.world
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      Pineapples are a freak fruit though.They grow on some kind of weird weed like some kind of joke.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      10 months ago

      Removed by mod

      • NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world
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        There is no such thing as a pineapple tree. That’s an AI image.

        Pineapples grow in an even more ridiculous way.

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          Holy shit. It’s insane that random AI generated drivel and misinformation has already started seeping into random conversations like this. It really has already become completely ubiquitous, hasn’t it? 🤦🏻‍♂️ OOF

      • ‮redirtSdeR@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        👆 ai detected

      • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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        Those look closer to durian than pineapples tbh.

        • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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          Durian have a far worse reputation than their actual reality. Surströmming, on the other hand, over-achieves its reputation.

      • recursive_recursion they/them@lemmy.ca
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        that image looks pretty crazy!😮

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          It’s AI-generated non-sense. Pineapples grow on small plants like this:

          • recursive_recursion they/them@lemmy.ca
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            ahh that makes a lot more sense as I’m currently following MegadethRulz’s homegrown pineapple saga here :D

        • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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          Yeah, I grabbed it at random froma search results. I think it’s not real.

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    “apple” used to be a generic term for fruit. So it’s actually “fruit of the earth”, the French are poetic like that

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      Also apples used to be small, tart, and acidic.

      You wouldn’t eat them as a dessert but as a basis for brewing alcohol.

      It’s wild how much fruits changed in recent times.

      So much so that most zoo are stoppimg giving them to animals and switched to more leafy greens. They have gotten so sugary that they promoted tooth decay and obesity.

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        Than you, I was going to say modern apples have a taste and texture nothing like apples when this name was created.

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      10 months ago

      So this means moonshine is apple juice?

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    Some German speakers say “Erdapfel” which is literally “earth apple.”

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      It’s probably the Germans living near French, who’ve had bad influences.

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    In a lot of languages the word for apple used to refer to all kinds of fruits, particularly new ones from more or less exotic lands. Pineapples also don’t look much like apples, do they?

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      Pomme de terre (IIRC) is a sad version of a underground apple.

      Pineapples look like a pinecone but with a sweet fruit inside. Makes sense to me.

      Then again horse apples, i.e., horse shit doesn’t taste great at all. Then again, again: horse apples, the Osage Orange fruit, are inedible. Osage Orange is neither an apple or orange tree.

      English 'tis a silly language.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      I pronounce is Pin-eap-ples, just to avoid this very thing.

      But, at least they’re fruit.

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    Recently I watched an press event with a Canadian politician, who was switching between French and English as we must sometimes. He was talking about a bag of apples (which his colleague was holding) costing a stupid amount of money. He made the mistake of saying a bag of potatoes, which i found fucking hilarious as I speak both languages and understand the mistake. Unfortunately for him, the people criticising him were morons and were like WHY WOULD HE SAY POTATOES IS HE STUPID.

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      Franglais is my language of choice after several drinks in any French speaking country. I am from Jersey, New, so it’s the best I can do with my education.

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    I thought it was more “apples of the Earth”, n’est-ce pas?

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      Not really cause then it would be “pommes de la terre”.

      For the record, some of us also use the word “patate” which is straight up the equivalent of potato.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      Yeah, I wasn’t going for transliteration. “Apples of Earth” doesn’t convey the same concept.

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      No, it’s like how apple juice is jus de pomme.

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    isn’t apple used in many languages as a generic term for fruit?.. it’s not like pineapple has anything to do with apples either.

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      Case in point: Pomegranate. pomme = apple or more generically fruit, granate = grenade. It’s a shrapnel apple. Apt description if you’ve ever eaten one.

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    Let the language which is without sin cast the first stone.

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      ::: lanzars una piedra :::

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    if you think ground apples isn’t an apt description, you’ve never eaten potatoes raw.

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      Here’s something else to gnaw at your brain: “corn” used to be a generic term for any cereal grain, and now only refers to the one group of crops. Also we now (mostly) only use “cereal” to describe the stuff you have for breakfast with milk. Which used to be just shitty puffed grains but now also includes all kinds of flakes and processed nonsense.

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    Have you ever bitten into a road apple?

    People come up with funny names for things sometimes.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      OMG I love road apple pie!

      That one’s a euphemism, though. I don’t think it counts. That’s not the real name that normal (non-horse-people, all horse people are abnormal; I know, because I married one) use.

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    In Germany they are called Kartoffeln (which is also a slur for the Germans itself).
    But potatoes are also called Erdäpfel (ground apples) or in southern dialect Krombire (bent pear).
    More variants here:
    Source (German): https://die-kartoffel.de/wissen/schon-gewusst/kartoffel-deutsche-dialekte/

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      Nudel?? NUDEL???

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      And french fries are Pommes Frites. Fried apples

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    Why is this weird? “Apple” used to be the generic word for fruit in many different languages, it wasn’t until recently that it took on the meaning of a specific type of fruit. I don’t think calling potatoes “fruit of the earth” is at all strange. The English equivalent to this is the word “pineapple” – a fruit that kind of looks like a pine cone.

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      italian tomatoes have entered the chat and agree with their golden apples.

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    Actually sounds like you’ve never had a fresh potato, pulled right out of the ground and eaten on the spot

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      I have never. Do they taste like apples?

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        No not at all but a good one has a nice crunch to it, kinda like a water chestnut, and they can make a nice snap sound like an apple

        • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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          Oh. I’ve bitten into a potato before, just not one freshly and cruelly ripped from the warm breast of mother nature. I think they’re more similar to Asian Pears, of we’re making such comparisons, also not neatly as juicy.

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    American: “Have french people never eaten a good apple?”

    Frenchman: “Have Americans never enjoyed a tasty potato?”

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
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      Potatoes are indeed tasty. Some varieties are even sweet-ish. I can’t say I’ve had potatoes that were as sweet as apples, without the addition of a lot of sugar.

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    Well Italians call tomatoes golden apples

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      While having two words for blue because “they look different”

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