• Stern
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    There is no good reason, even with plenty of advance warning, to require a third party account for a single player game.

    • @TBi@lemmy.world
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      98 months ago

      Yep. On the older games, and Spider-Man, it was optional but you get cool stuff if you do. Why not keep it optional?

  • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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    I mean, I like to think Sony made it perfectly clear this time around. There’s really no excuse this time. People were warning other people, Sony had it on the system requirements sheet, and Steam had it listed as soon as the page went up. So if you still picked up the game and then decided to bitch about the PlayStation Network requirement because you didn’t know, that’s on you.

    Flipside, if you bought the game just to bitch about the PlayStation network requirement, knowing full well this would be a requirement, you’re way more privileged than me. When I don’t like how someone does something, I typically don’t give them money unless I don’t have a choice.

    • @stardust@lemmy.ca
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      Honestly I appreciate them buying it and expressing the disappointment in Steam reviews. It is the best way to get attention to it since people aren’t going to refrain from buying it. Boycotts don’t work so people expressing their thoughts is the best we got.

      • @ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world
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        “boycotts don’t work” lmao

        The gaming community is incapable of executing an effective boycott because they cannot go 5 minutes without the thing they like. So they’ll pre-order garbage, never learn their lesson, and complain the whole time while paying a premium, instead of exercising restraint and playing something else - like one of their 4,000 unplayed games in their bought library.

        • TheTechnician27
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          Yeah, they left off the rest of that lesson, which is “boycotts don’t work if you don’t fucking do them”. Boycotts work when they happen, and it’s still a good thing to personally boycott a game you feel isn’t up to your standards even if the broader community isn’t, but it’s been consistently shown nonetheless that gamers are horrible at wide-scale boycotts.

          • @stardust@lemmy.ca
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            What do you think I meant by people won’t refrain from buying. People not buying products they weren’t going to buy anyways isn’t a boycott. Do you trust the gaming community to actually not buy something they want?

            People are misunderstanding that boycotts won’t work in this case means a boycott isn’t going to happen.

        • @stardust@lemmy.ca
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          If people don’t refrain from buying then boycotts won’t work. Gaming community is more effective at creating noise than not buying a product they want.

        • The gaming community is incapable of executing an effective boycott

          If that’s the case, then explain exactly why Sony backed off of the account requirement for Helldivers 2

    • Fogle
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      48 months ago

      Could be people who already have the PSN account. Linking it was never the problem. I don’t want the account

    • @SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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      It was also perfectly clear the first time, the CEO of Arrowhead chose to not make the information as readily available as HE should have. Sonys always had the same stance, but one CEO decided to try and stick it to them, and unfortunately, it worked, but they likely won’t get more work.

      He chose to turn the requirement off to fix a glitch on their system. It was a requirement, it was listed, Arrowhead is wholefully to blame

  • @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    One thing that immensely frustrates me about this is we don’t get this reaction from Ubisoft where an account is required to play pretty much all their games. Nor Activision with Call of Duty.

    It’s not great that Sony is doing this, but at the same time the horse has already left the barn and people are just jumping on the rage bandwagon.

    I’m not saying don’t be mad at Sony, but can we get this outrage at the other companies too?

    • lastweakness
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      198 months ago

      This is a single player game that wants me to log in. I won’t buy something like that, irrespective of what company it’s from.

    • Blaine
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      128 months ago

      Those are multiplayer games. Totally different.

    • @Paddzr@lemmy.world
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      But this implies same people are also buying those games. Which they might not even be into.

      GTA, cod and ubisoft games are polarising.

      But there’s a massive crowd who likes single player games. Especially ones that are meant to be good.

    • Noctis
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      Call of Duty uses it for crossplay. Totally different.

    • @ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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      I’m all for piracy but the average person has no idea what they’re doing and will most likely end up with a bunch of viruses due to lack of experience or people to show them how to pirate safely.

      I’m tired of this issue being completely ignored in these situations. Pirating games is even harder than pirating movies or tv shows which is already difficult if you don’t know what you’re doing. .

  • @Zahille7@lemmy.world
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    I like the idea of Kratos being 100% aware of everything and him just being disappointed in IRL people

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    Are people this mad about Microsoft accounts? I picked up Forza Horizon 4 and couldn’t play at all until I signed in with one. However I already had one from using OneDrive.

    Rockstar too. Can’t even play RDR2 solo without creating an account.

    I do hate Sony extra because they’re the fuckwits behind some particularly stupid DRM schemes. But some of the games they’ve been publishing lately are good and very welcome on PC aside from this account crap.

    • @Chefdano3@lemm.ee
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      Did it count as being mad, that I just don’t play any games that require linking accounts? There’s plenty of games that don’t require it that I can pay, and missing out on some high budget good games that everyone is talking about isn’t a big enough deal to me that I will be fine with just skipping it.

      • Deconceptualist
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        48 months ago

        Nah, IMO that’s pretty reasonable. I would say “mad” here means someone bought the game and then gave it a negative review over the account linking.

          • Deconceptualist
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            18 months ago

            Have you had that happen with Microsoft / Rockstar / Ubisoft / EA / whatever accounts? That was my actual question.

            • @Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works
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              Some old Ubisoft game pissed me off like that I think, required their account and launcher and pissed me off. I think I left a bad review in that one because of it, unless I was too lazy to.

    • Psychadelligoat
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      38 months ago

      Both games mentioned have multiplayer sections within them

      It would be better if you didn’t have to sign in until you chose to play MP, but to a degree it is somewhat understandable to have you log into a game with MP

  • @Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    68 months ago

    This game annoyed me. The first was so so good and the second felt like two games rushed and crammed into one for the sake of ending the Nordic story, so Kratos can move on to another Pantheon

  • slazer2au
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    Did people not see this coming? The other ported games have psn requirements, HD2 seems to be the only exception.