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@thehatfox@lemmy.world to Selfhosted@lemmy.worldEnglish • 10 months ago

ICANN approves use of .internal domain for your network

www.theregister.com

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ICANN approves use of .internal domain for your network

www.theregister.com

@thehatfox@lemmy.world to Selfhosted@lemmy.worldEnglish • 10 months ago
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Vint Cerf revealed Google already uses the string, as do plenty of others
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  • @cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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    107•10 months ago

    It would have been nice if they came up with something shorter like .lan.

  • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    58•10 months ago

    It should be reserved for sex toys.

    Just saying.

    • @Bluefruit@lemmy.world
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      17•10 months ago

      What are you doing step-LAN?

      • @devfuuu@lemmy.world
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        7•10 months ago

        Please don’t use the duplex again.

      • RandomLegend [He/Him]
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        1•9 months ago

        I saw you peeked inside my ssh key drawer last night step-LAN

    • @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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      7•10 months ago

      I used to wonder why porn sites aren’t required to use ‘.cum’ instead of ‘.com’…

      • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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        5•10 months ago

        The original 3, “.cum”, “.nut”, and “.orgasm”.

        • @ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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          2•10 months ago

          Ah yes, the goldenshower age of the web.

      • @TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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        1•10 months ago

        Well did you find out?

    • Captain Aggravated
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      1•10 months ago

      some sex toys are external

      • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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        5•10 months ago

        Then they go on .external, obviously.

  • @solrize@lemmy.world
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    32•10 months ago

    Browsers barf at non https now. What are we supposed to do about certificates?

    • @egonallanon@lemm.ee
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      10•10 months ago

      Either ignore like I do or add a self signed cert to trusted root and use that for your services. Will work fine unless you’re letting external folks access your self hosted stuff.

    • @state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4•10 months ago

      I found options like .local and now .internal way too long for my private stuff. So I managed to get a two-letter domain from some obscure TLD and with Cloudflare as DNS I can use Caddy to get Let’s Encrypt certs for hosts that resolve to 10.0.0.0/8 IPs. Caddy has plugins for other DNS providers, if you don’t want to go with Cloudflare.

      • @kudos@lemmy.ml
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        2•10 months ago

        Might be an idea to not use any public A records and just use it for cert issuance, and Stick with private resolvers for private use.

        • @state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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          1•10 months ago

          It’s a domain with hosts that all resolve to private IP addresses. I don’t care if someone manages to see hosts like vaultwarden, cloud, docs or photos through enumeration if they all resolve to 10.0.0.0/8 addresses. Setting up a private resolver and private PKI is just too much of a bother.

  • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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    24•10 months ago

    Why do I care what ICANN says I can do on my own network? It’s my network, I do what I want.

    • @friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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      25•10 months ago

      Try using .com for your internal network and watch the problems arise. Their choice to reserve .internal helps people avoid fqdn collisions.

      See also https://traintocode.com/stop-using-test-dot-com/

      • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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        1•10 months ago

        Well as long as the TLD isn’t used by anyone it should work internally regardless of what ICANN says, especially if I add it to etc/hosts

        • @friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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          12•10 months ago

          Sure, you can do whatever you want. You could even use non-rfc1918 addresses and nobody can stop you. It’s just not always a great idea for your own network’s functionality and security. You can use an unregistered TLD if you want, but it’s worth knowing that when people and companies did that in the past, and the TLD was later registered, things didn’t turn out well for them. You wouldn’t expect .foo to be a TLD, right? And it wasn’t, until it was.

          • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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            5•10 months ago

            Ah good point. I guess a future-proofed guarantee that the domain will never be used externally would be easier to use than trying to somehow configure my DNS to never update specific addresses.

      • @frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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        -1•10 months ago

        deleted by creator

    • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      14•10 months ago

      Certain domain names are locally routed only. So if you use internal or local as a tld, you can just assign whatever names you want and your computer won’t go looking out on the internet for them. This means you and I can both have fileserver.local as an address on our respective network without conflicting. It’s the URI equivalent of 192.168.0.0/16.

      • @torkildr@lemmy.world
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        4•10 months ago

        Interesting that you should use “.local” as an example, as that one’s extra special, aka Multicast DNS

    • @ygpa@lemmy.world
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      12•10 months ago

      YouCANN do anything you want?

  • @486@lemmy.world
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    16•10 months ago

    That’s good, I never liked the clunky .home.arpa domain.

    • @subtext@lemmy.world
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      1•10 months ago

      It was just always so annoying having to go into the iPhone keyboard punctuation twice for each domain

  • @Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    15•10 months ago

    Thanks but I hardly needed anyone permission to not use that. .local still works just fine.

    • @tills13@lemmy.world
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      14•10 months ago

      Except when it doesn’t. It can have issues around multicast dns.

    • @UberMentch@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      I’ve had issues with .local on my Android device. Straight up doesn’t work. I had to change to .lan

      • @PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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        1•10 months ago

        I think it was only added in android 12.

      • @tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1•10 months ago

        Same here, just stumbled across this issue yesterday when I tried to restructure my network to use .local

    • @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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      8•10 months ago

      It just means .internal won’t be relayed out on the internet, as it will be reserved for local only.

    • @LrdThndr@lemmy.world
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      5•10 months ago

      Good luck with that. .local is reserved for mDNS calls, and not every OS treats it the same way. Ask me how I know.

      • @Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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        2•10 months ago

        Been working fine for me for twenty years or more in a mixed environment.

    • @bfg9k@lemmy.world
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      3•10 months ago

      I used to use .local but mDNS can get confused, .home has been fine though

  • kingthrillgore
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    13•10 months ago

    Took long enough

  • @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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    10•10 months ago

    Thank god. Now iOS will finally recognize it

  • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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    9•10 months ago

    Missed the opportunity for .myshit.

  • @takeda@lemmy.world
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    7•10 months ago

    I guess no one offered anything for .internal

  • Zorro
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    6•10 months ago

    routerlogin.net how I do not miss you

    • Corhen
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      1•10 months ago

      i loved that it was an option. not sure why it was changed.

  • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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    5•10 months ago

    Woohoo! We internal now! No more FQDN collisions!

  • @frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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    2•10 months ago

    My network is .milkme and I have nipples… will they approve it?

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