• @Adalast@lemmy.world
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    I would genuinely cry. He is older than both of them and could literally run circles around them, both mentally and physically. I would 100% vote for Bernie and be fine with it. The vote for Biden is because the armpit of hell that I live in doesn’t do ranked voting and Trump will wreck the planet. A rotting potato powering a computer core running ChatGPT left ignored on the resolute desk for 4 years would be a better alternative to these two fuckwits.

    Seriously, why did they have to run Joe? If they had run someone in their 50’s or 60’s they would win on “well, he isn’t as old as Trump” alone. If they had run someone under the age of 40 I imagine every leftist voter under the age of 50 would have been voting for them. The only reason “he’s fucking old” doesn’t stick to Trump is because he behaves like a horny 15 year old jacked up on cocaine and Twitter.

    Just… FML.

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      Come to Europe, we have democracy! And the far right still wins…

      • @dogsoahC@lemm.ee
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        But at least they don’t automatically get effectively all the power after winning a simple majority. That’s… something, at least. I want to cry.

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          after winning a simple majority

          don’t listen to them; our systems beats theirs because you don’t even need a majority to win over here thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering. lol

        • stebo
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          1011 months ago

          if they have an actual majority (more than 50%), they would but luckily that’s not the case… yet

          • @dogsoahC@lemm.ee
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            Yeah, because we have more than two parties, so a simple majority isn’t automatically an absolute one. But if you group the far right with the increasingly far right “conservatives”, it looks much more bleak.

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              But if you group the far right with the increasingly far right “conservatives”, it looks much more bleak.

              we’ve been in that situation since the 1980’s; our center-right and our far right are our only choices for president now.

              i used to think europe’s democracies were ahead since they carried on with progressive initiatives the americans stopped doing in the 1970’s, but now i wonder if europe’s lurch rightwards is them catching up to the americans.

                • @eldavi@lemmy.ml
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                  I’m an American so when we say “Europe” we assume it’s understood that I mean Western Europe. Lol

        • @NegativeInf@lemmy.world
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          Then cry. And then go knock doors and tell people why it’s important to vote the way they should not because of one person, but for the future of the country and their own livelihood. Despair is only displaced by activism. All it takes for evil to succeed is for us to stand by and let it happen.

      • @linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml
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        311 months ago

        most of yall dont have democracy and the far right always win in amerikkka because the only options are the two wings of the far right party.

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      If they had run someone under the age of 40 I imagine every leftist voter under the age of 50 would have been voting for them.

      cough

    • Snailpope
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      I love celebrity death match, it was so ridiculous! Still have a copy of the game

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      This one, and Kai Winn vs Delores Umbridge. I honestly want to see the second scenario more than the first, but that’s just because I’m firmly convinced that Kai Winn would, “My Child,” Umbridge into defeating herself.

  • UnfortunateShort
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    Technical question: If he would murder both candidates, could he still become president and pardon himself?

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      No law prevents a convicted felon from running or winning the office of the presidency. As for the question of self-pardons, that’s something that everyone on both sides would hotly debate as it’s never been tested before. You would think there’s an obvious answer (he can’t) but unfortunately laws get fuzzy at the very top and decisions are usually dictated by historic precedent (which there is none for this scenario in US politics.)

      • @NegativeInf@lemmy.world
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        It depends on if he’s charged with a federal or state charge, and even if federal, there’s still the question of whether he actually can, which would have to be considered by the courts.

    • tenchiken
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      He doesn’t get older, just more and more apparent he was right this whole time

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        he also has a front seat view to this country’s rightward shift and i wonder how frustrating it is to be so close to the levers of power to stop it; but to be blocked both your adversaries and your allies each time you try to reach for them.

    • @Furball@sh.itjust.works
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      I doubt Bernie himself will but technically it’s not too late. The Democratic national convention hasn’t happened yet and after the debate there’s been a renewed push to pick someone else

    • Liz
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      Technically no, but it’ll never happen.

      The way the parties nominate candidates for president is an absolute mess, but the nominations aren’t official until the parties hold a closed convention with delegates who vote for candidates to be the nominee. Back in the day these delegates used to actually be the people who decided who got nominated. These days they’re more like a ceremonial role, with a lot of them (I think) being required to vote in line with the way people voted in their state’s primary.

      Anyway, I’d have to look it up to be 100% sure, but I’m pretty sure enough delegates have some kind of autonomy that it’s possible they could nominate someone other than Biden. Who they would end up agreeing on…? Heck if I know.

      • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        Yeah. Supreme court ruled that political parties post-2016 are private clubs that can do whatever the fuck they want (Supreme Courts ruling on DNC’s ratfucking of Bernie).

        Afaict from DNC rules , Biden needs to release his delegates for the first rounds of voting; from there it would proceed like any convention prior to 1976.

        Honestly, it would be a great thing for the Democrats to do this. All of a sudden people would really fucking care about the election.

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      Our Democrats would never let him win, and that’s before you even get to the Republicans. Republican heads might actually explode if we elected a progressive who dared to call themselves a Democratic Socialist.

      Meanwhile, Democrats are also crushed under the thumb of all the money big business pours into bribery lobbying, and they have already made it clear twice that they won’t let him get on the ballot.

      We’ll never get progressive policies or a progressive president unless the progressives infiltrate D to the extent maga has infiltrated R.

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    1411 months ago

    I’d give my life savings to see this from Sanders. Of course, then we’d lose him, so it would have to be part of his retirement announcement.