• @RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
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      4911 months ago

      Exactly. And somehow the top of the article says

      According to new research, skipping breakfast or excessive screen time are risk factors for developing obesity

      Oh yah, it’s definitely because kids skip breakfast (and the 22g of sugar per teaspoon) and screens.

      • @De_Narm@lemmy.world
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        2111 months ago

        I can get behind the logic of more screen time probably meaning less physical activity. But someone needs to explain to me how eating less would ever lead to weight gain. Especially when your typical breakfast junk is just as unhealthy as snacking could ever be.

        • @CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world
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          1611 months ago

          I know that if I skip a meal, I can get really hungry later. That or I start snacking on crap. So skipping a meal could potentially lead to weight gain because you end up eating more than if you didn’t skip the meal.

        • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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          your body adjusts to fasting by increasing hunger hormones and sensitivity to them. This can lead to overconsuming food when its available.

          additionally roads and traffic have also reduced effective social and play areas even as vehicles become more dangerous to pedestrians.

          Its possible even that the evolutionary adaptation to cars is that low energy kids have less risk of injury/death while more high energy kids get hit by cars, possibly selecting for less active kids generation to generation (notably it may also be selecting for taller heights)

          • @thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works
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            511 months ago

            I’m interested in the idea of selection adaptation and motorised vehicles, however I think selective adaptation takes much much much longer than motorised vehicles have been with us so far. We’re talking hundreds of years for selective adaptation to take affairs.

            I could be wrong about that though.

            The more likely adaptation reason currently is that we like over eating. Food used to be scarce, and when it was available you ate as much as you could or you died. The survivors of that scenario are the ones that made us, and as such we love eating lots when it’s there.

            I think our fascination with sweet foods makes sense from this perspective also. Our ancestors exposure to sweet foods were mostly fruit. Fruit would have improved their immune system significantly. Unfortunately we’ve since began mass producing sugar which doesn’t offer the same benefits, but our bodies are still set up to love that sweet taste.

            I’m rambling a bit, but there you go.

            • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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              111 months ago

              car accidents are one of the largest causes of death of people below the age of 35 in the US if I recall. This means its likely one of the largest selection factors for people at or below reproductive age.

            • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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              111 months ago

              Wild fruits were also not very sweet. They didn’t get that sweet until we started breeding them to be sweeter.

        • @Carnelian@lemmy.world
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          611 months ago

          I’m not sure exactly how it works tbh! But this was also one of the findings of the National Weight Control Registry when studying people who successfully lost weight and kept it off.

          78% eat breakfast every day. 75% weigh themselves at least once a week. 62% watch less than 10 hours of TV per week. 90% exercise, on average, about 1 hour per day.

          Some more tidbits:

          98% of Registry participants report that they modified their food intake in some way to lose weight. 94% increased their physical activity, with the most frequently reported form of activity being walking.

          If I had to speculate, my guess is that having breakfast results in a better workout. And then a better workout makes you more likely to comply with your meal plan, which then results in better long term weight results

    • @MilitantVegan@lemmy.world
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      -311 months ago

      If you’re blaming rising obesity on sugar, it shows you’re more susceptible to marketing than you are knowledgeable about the relevant science.

    • @MilitantVegan@lemmy.world
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      211 months ago

      Refined sugar is generally not good, and certainly whole food sources of carbs are much more beneficial than simple sugars - however, sugar is not nearly as much of a demon as popular health influencers make it out to be. Importantly, it also needs to be kept in mind that the “standard american diet” (sad) or standard western diet is one that’s high in animal products, fat (particularly saturated fat), refined carbs; while being low in whole fruits, vegetables, and fiber and phytonutrients in general.

      Walter Kempers rice diet is worth learning about. It was a terrible diet - patients could basically only eat white rice, sugar, and fruit. But despite being an absurdly high sugar and high carb diet, a lot of patients saw dramatic improvements in their health, particularly when it came to things like obesity and type 2 diabetes reversal.

      https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/information-all/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/

      • @No_Eponym@lemmy.ca
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        311 months ago

        Well, thank you for your reasonable response. Have you seen Parks and Rec though? Because your response kind of sounds like it’s continuing the joke…

        • @MilitantVegan@lemmy.world
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          111 months ago

          Lol. The funny thing is they are kind of technically right. All refined sugars have some harmful effects like blood sugar spikes and inflammation, but corn syrup only has a slightly higher ratio of fructose to glucose as table sugar does. In small, irregular doses it’s fine to consume. And for athletes it can even be beneficial since refined carbs can replenish glycogen stores rapidly.

  • Flying Squid
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    1411 months ago

    Sometimes it works the other way. We cannot get our teenage daughter to eat anything but junk food half the time and yet she’s far thinner than either of us were as teenagers. Neither of us can understand it.

    • @Carnelian@lemmy.world
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      2711 months ago

      You can be thin eating any type of food. It’s generally just far easier to over-consume junk food, but if she’s not eating too much it won’t inherently lead to weight gain

        • @Carnelian@lemmy.world
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          2311 months ago

          I assure you that it’s just a matter of your perception. Every study ever performed reveals people have a notoriously bad internal concept of the quantity of their intake, frequently being off by more than double. The problem is even further exacerbated when trying to estimate someone else’s intake

              • Flying Squid
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                311 months ago

                Sure, maybe. No bad news from her pediatrician so far though.

            • lost_faith
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              211 months ago

              As a teen I would out eat, in physical quantity, any 2 full grown adults and not gain weight, I was 5’11" @ 125lbs by 16. I could eat several plates of whatever was in front of me, at that time my parents made food, not prepackaged processed crap. Into my 20s I’d sit down and empty a tub of ice cream, not one of them tiny ben & jerrys containers. No weight gain until I hit 28 doing a physical job and went up to 180 lbs of muscle, now I’m 150 ish and can still eat what I want when I want, tho normally I eat to live not live to eat. Calories-in-calories-out, like BMI, is only a part of the whole picture with so many unseen things affecting it, like medicines. And no, being skinny was not an easy ride.

              • @Voran@lemmy.world
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                311 months ago

                It is most definitely not an easy ride. I have had complete stranger come up to me in the street and lecture me about being thin. I wasn’t even underweight. I was normal for my height. Happened recently and I’m way heavier than I used to be and people STILL do it.

    • @Voran@lemmy.world
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      311 months ago

      Could be something she does is burning energy and you haven’t figured out what.

      I used to wonder why I never gained weight despite eating twice what other people did…I never thought to factor in being extremely active because it was normal for me. I didn’t think brutal martial arts classes or 5k runs counted as being ‘active’. I thought it was normal.

      Granted I wasn’t underweight and didn’t need to gain but I really wanted to look like Zarya from Overwatch

  • @T156@lemmy.world
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    311 months ago

    Anyone know how skipping breakfast contributes? It seems like it would do the opposite.

  • @PeteBauxigeg@lemm.ee
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    -411 months ago

    Interesting that we’ve made progress on world hunger to the extent that 1 in 5 kids is now overfed, I swear when i grew up we were told child hunger was ubiquitous in the majority of the world’s population