I’m 24, I practice fencing. My height is 198 cm, I usually fence against shorter opponents. They often manage to drive their smallsword into my belly. That’s why I’m curious: what would it be like to get wounded into the belly by a real smallsword? How lethal would it be? How painful? How would I react?

  • @jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works
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    291 year ago

    Beyond initial bleeding - extensive gastrointestinal issues, depending on where it hits. If it lacerates part of the intestine, it may leak feces into the abdominal cavity. It would require flushing and antibiotics to prevent going into sepsis from massive infection.

    If it does enough damage, you could be looking at removing a portion of the intestines and possibly requiring a colostomy bag.

    Abdominal wounds are no joke. The liver bleeds profusely if lacerated or punctured. All of the blood flow to the abdomen exits through the liver into the inferior vena cava.

  • @calabast@lemm.ee
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    211 year ago

    You would probably say “ow, my belly”

    Not sure about the lethality or pain level, tho.

      • @calabast@lemm.ee
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        51 year ago

        Sorry, my reply was dumb. I don’t know what you said back, but it was probably completely justified. 😄

        • @BeReady77@lemmy.worldOP
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          11 year ago

          Its totally ok! I just answered that I would also clutch my belly with my hands and fall on my knees, but then deleted it because thought it was kind of dumb 😅

      • @UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        More something along the lines of “This but a scratch” and in the next scene you’re fully healed. Killing your opponent with the same stab, because it was plot convinient.

        Dang I hated dune 2.

  • SanguinePar
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    171 year ago

    Complete layman answer here, but I would imagine it would depend on several factors:

    • Depth of the wound.
    • Any angle, twist or lateral movement of the blade after contact.
    • Which organs/blood vessels got hit, if any.
    • Cleanliness of the blade prior to puncturing the skin.

    I suspect it’d be extremely painful regardless of the above!

    • @GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world
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      121 year ago

      I think the cleanliness of the blade would be less relevant than the massive infection pouring from your pierced guts into the wound.

      • gregorum
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        yeah, almost nothing on the blade would matter compare to the filth already inside your intestines. just a speck of that leaking into your body cavity will cause sepsis, and would be fatal without elephantine doses of antibiotics. stabbed with a sword? you’ll be in the hospital for weeks, at least. oh, and that’s not even including the massive tissue damage and blood loss.

        plus, you’ll be lucky to be leaving with your entire intestine intact (you’ll likely be losing at least a few feet of it) and possibly pooping into a colostomy bag for the rest of your life.

  • @FireTower@lemmy.world
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    131 year ago

    Tldr it depends.

    You might not notice with adrenaline pumping. As for lethality it really depends on where in your stomach you get hit and the care you get afterwards. In terms of the fight if it’s just your stomach area getting hit nothing shy of a spinal hit would instantly stop you. If they hit an artery you’ve got minutes. If they puncture your intestines and you can’t get care days, before infection catches up to you.

    For the actual conflict the only things that will instantly stop are central nervous system hits (brain/spine). Heart and lungs are the next worst, but wouldn’t stop you from claiming a pyrrhic victory. Major arteries are the next big thing to worry about.

    The worst part about getting hit in a non vital part of the chest wouldn’t be the force of the blow but the slow agonizing battle with infection that is not unlikely to follow. But absolutely livable and not nearly as bad with modern medical care.

  • Boozilla
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    81 year ago

    If you’re doing Star Wars cosplay, you’ll be totally fine. Unless you’re wearing the Qui-Gon Jinn costume, then you’re screwed.

  • RemembertheApollo
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    51 year ago

    Assuming it perforates the intestine - big infection from fecal matter getting into the abdominal cavity. It’s called peritonitis, and AFAIK it’s pretty much fatal if untreated. Severe abdominal pain as the infection spreads, all the vomiting and diarrhea cleans you out, and then the infection starts to shut your intestines and the rest of your organs fail while you go into sepsis and die. It’s not fast, either. It can take several days.

  • @reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    21 year ago

    if stomach gets cut, the acid could flow out. Death by being dissolved by your own stomach acid wouldnt be nice one.

    • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      61 year ago

      It’s actually the bacteria that’s a bigger issue. Your digestive tract is isolated from main body functions in a number of key ways to prevent shit in your food and bowels from getting into your blood stream - if they do bridge that gap it can be nearly impossible to recover even with modern medicine. Septic shock is an extremely common cause of death.

  • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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    11 year ago

    One of the shows I’ve been watching had this as its twist, part of a cliffhanger. There were hints before but you can’t not object to a short sword embedded in a guys belly having so little impact