On the one hand, I hope he loses.
On the other hand, I hope Meta also loses.
Something tells me we are the ones who lose.
And on the brain… Worms!
Regardless, the lawyers win.
“When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers”
I am the one who walks away from Omelas.
I can’t see how Meta could lose. 1 unreliable information, and 2 they can deny access to anyone they want if they are a private company last I knew.
The brain worm is up to something…
Get em wormy
That lil dude goes hard and saved my ass multiple times
That lil dude goes hard and saved my ass multiple times
-RFK jr probably
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There is no freedom of speech guarantee in private or public enterprise. Only government.
Yet another tool that uses “freedom of speech” incorrectly to basically mean “I want to force people to listen to my bullshit.” How these people running for office don’t get the first amendment is amazing.
There is no freedom of speech guarantee in private or public enterprise.
And the consequence of this policy is a back-door path to censorship. A combination of surveillance, selective-admittance, and media saturation allow certain ideological beliefs to suffice the “marketplace of ideas” while others are silenced.
“I want to force people to listen to my bullshit.”
Its more that privatized media infrastructure allows for a monopolization of speech.
Big media companies still force people to listen to bullshit, by way of advertising and algorithmic promotion. Go on YouTube, click through their “recommended” list a few times, and you’ll quickly find yourself watching some Mr. Beast episode or PraegerU video, simply because these folks have invested so heavily in self-promotion.
But there’s a wide swath of content you won’t see, either because YouTube’s algorithm explicitly censors it for policy reasons, because the media isn’t maxing out the SEO YouTube execs desire (the classic Soy Face thumbnail for instance), or because you’re not spending enough money to boost visibility.
This has nothing to do with what the generic video watcher wants to see and everything to do with what YouTube administration wants that watcher to see.
RFK Jr is a nasty little freak with some very toxic beliefs. But that’s not why he’s struggling to get noticed on the platform, when plenty of other nasty freaks with toxic beliefs get mainstream circulation.
Yeah. That’s also a problem. But then you have to upend corporate ownership of the control of speech, and we’re already facing that problem.
Really don’t need to hear anything coming from this guy. It’s always batshit crazy and it’s a waste of time.
I remember seeing be was a guest on Rogan and thinking, “Oh, wow. I guess I’ll listen to Rogan again this one time to hear a Kennedy talking.”
Turns out it was right on fucking brand for Rogan.
Ha ha ha
It’s always hilarious to read and worth a laugh imo
Man talking to himself accuses company of action they are allowed to perform
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You can’t get elected without big tech bribes, and he just bit the hand that feeds.
It’s ok. He can’t get elected anyway
He’ll never recover after the death of his running mate: VP Brain Worm.
Don’t worry, VP Brain Worm laid eggs.
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For a second I thought pences fly had a grub
Let them fight. I want a discovery on this
I’m betting this gets dismissed before discovery
So what? How does he think Meta is liable for anything here?
it’s gotta be posturing for his base “lone hero stands up to big tech”
He lets the worm do the thinking.
They’re oppressing him! The chatbot said so!!
So, what do we do about the fact that major social media outlets are the only effective means of mass communication? Why should they get to pick and choose our leadership?
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Shadow banning is definitely too much imo. It’s simply unethical no matter how you look at it.
First, it doesn’t do anything to prevent bots. It takes less than a second for a bot to check whether they are shadow banned. It’s simply a tool to bully and gaslight people - just block them. Why these abusive games?
IDK, I think it can be an effective tool against trolls because it wastes the time they’d otherwise spend harassing people.
But that’s not what RFK is, he’s a legitimate candidate for president and should be given the same consideration other candidates are, not shadowbanned because someone doesn’t like his message.
Nothing legit about him. He has no chance.
He’s legit in that his campaign went through the process to get on the ballot in certain states. That has nothing to do with his chances.
I suppose in a strict legal sense, fuck him though.
That’s fine. But he shouldn’t be silenced. If he gets some traction, debate him to show voters what’s wrong with his ideas, that really shouldn’t be hard.
Takes time and money to explain the truth. Lying is free.
Would you really argue that he’s been silenced as we sit here discussing him in the comments for an article written about him?
I don’t know, I guess we’ll need to see how the lawsuit turns out. I’m sure RFK Jr. will bring some evidence that’ll help us understand what Meta may or may not have done.
Ah yes because debating Trump exposes him to people so well
I’d love to see Trump and RFK Jr. debate. Two old nutjobs duking it out, with Biden just sitting back eating popcorn.
Effectiveness is irrelevant here. Breaking troll’s kneecaps would be very effective too.
This mental manipulation and gaslighting has no place in our society. We’re literally suffering the consequences of this right now.
Like any tool, it’s bad when used improperly. Shadowbanning should be used to waste trolls’ time; it’s especially effective for cheaters in MMOs (lump the cheaters together so they don’t bother anyone). Shadowbanning shouldn’t be used to control the discussion, like silencing an unpopular or undesirable (to the platform) individual.
I think we’re doing too much of the latter, but that doesn’t mean shadowbanning as a tool is morally bankrupt.
It’s definitely morally bankrupt imo and we can agree to disagree here as I don’t think this topic can be expanded further.
bro he looks like the heavens gate guy
For real!
he really does, doesn’t he
He could have been a great dude but he just HAD to go down the antivax rabbit hole. Fuckin’ shame.
Sadly, that’s not the only conspiracy he’s into
Yea, which is crazy. I don’t agree with him but I like him. Something about him is engaging him. I’d love to see him chat with Steve Novella or someone like that.
Not the onion.
Thought about posting it there but I had already made one RFK post there last night and didn’t want to do 2 in a day lol
Meta is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they like.
This guy shouldn’t be let anywhere near a position of decision making, let alone the highest office in the nation.
The corpos are way too ban happy
Does everyone hate Bobby Kennedy so much that they’ll side with Facebook and Zuckerberg over a career environmental attorney because he’s running for president?
He’s an unhinged anti-vaxxer and all around conspiracy theorist. Summarizing him as an environmental lawyer is being real generous.
“Let’s imagine: It’s time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts. Which would you choose:
“Candidate A: Associates with ward healers and consults with astrologists; has had two mistresses; chain-smokes and drinks eight to ten martinis a day.
“Candidate B: Was kicked out of office twice; sleeps until noon; used opium in college; drinks a quart of brandy every evening.
“Candidate C: Is a decorated war hero, a vegetarian, doesn’t smoke, drinks an occasional beer, and has had no illicit love affairs.
“Which of these candidates is your choice? You don’t really need any more information, do you? Candidate A is Franklin Roosevelt. Candidate B is Winston Churchill. Candidate C is Adolf Hitler.”
Biased and selective comparisons can prove anything.
Okay, but he also has admitted to have decreased cognitive function and memory problems because of the brain worms. I don’t think that it’s a horrible bias to say that people who have decreased cognitive function and memory problems because of brain worms probably shouldn’t be president.
I agree, the statement earlier was another example. RFK is a terrible choice for many reasons (the worms thing is almost certainly bullshit though). But everyone has some good qualities you can focus on if you want to promote them. Similarly, everyone has bad qualities if that’s your M.O.
he also has admitted to have decreased cognitive function and memory problems because of the brain worms.
Not permanently
I’m not sure why you’re not aware of this, but brains don’t grow back.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rfk-jr-claims-doctor-parasite-ate-part-brain/story?id=110027317
Doctors interviewed by ABC News clarified that these types of parasites don’t actually eat brain tissue. Rather, they absorb nutrients passively before dying.
According to doctors interviewed by ABC News, an infection like this could lead to seizures, which could potentially cause short-lived memory problems as Kennedy described, but most patients would mount a full recovery.
None of that has anything to do with policy.
If you pick someone based on this criteria you’re a fucking idiot.
Politicians are there to set policy you stupid fuck…not be a cult of personality.
No, because he’s actually quite mad and belongs nowhere near any kind of power. I can see his conspiracy theories appealing to the Q type, but most of them are going to go for Trump. He’s polling this highly because he’s an unknown. As more people start paying attention to who he actually is, he will be the Herman Cain of the race.
Would you agree that Bobby Kennedy would draw more voters from Trump as it stands?
A “conspiracy theorist” is rejected on the left until government-sanctioned evidence is provided. The right doesn’t have that constraint.
The left believes conspiracy theories. They’re just different conspiracy theories.
According to Kennedy, Meta is colluding with the Biden administration to sway the 2024 presidential election by suppressing Kennedy’s documentary and making it harder to support Kennedy’s candidacy. This allegedly has caused “substantial donation losses,” while also violating the free speech rights of Kennedy, his supporters, and his film’s production company, AV24.
In this case, Meta and the Biden administration are claimed to be co-conspirators colluding to block citizens from promoting their favorite presidential candidate.
We can very much dislike both while also agreeing that this is fucking stupid. While we continue to very much dislike both, one is clearly in the wrong on this issue and pointing out the sheer stupidity of Kennedy’s actions is not “siding” with Zuckerberg.
I don’t care what his profession is/was - he’s wrong and it would be disingenuous to give him a pass because he did a thing at some point in his life that I agreed with.
Yeah, I’m no fan of RFK, but I would much rather live in a world where people like RFK can speak their mind instead of this one where Meta gets to decide whose voices are heard. It’s pretty easy to ignore a crazy person, it’s hard to find worthwhile content the major players don’t want you to find.
So don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, having a free society means we’ll have to deal with people like RFK every so often.
