Can we just go back to personal websites and forums?
Also fuck discord use mumble
It’s even worse when open source projects point you towards their discord for questions and support.
It’s just a black hole for information
I hate that so much, especially when GitHub lets have your own wiki. It’s just lazy devs.
Maybe the devs love keeping answering same questions over Discord? =D
Naw, they just like to see that 60-70% unanswered rate for problems and issues. Makes for the best community support.
Highest effort, lowest reward.
Fucking feel that hard, I just nope the fuck outta there.
Discord is trash, had issues with a KBDFans product, something as simple as a search of a forum would have given me the solution. I had to talk to a human to get the required information. They sent me a link to a firmware to download and all was good.
If I was able to search a forum it would have been a 2 minute job, but I wasted someone else’s time, on the other side of the globe.
Discord has a search function tho?
please do show me a single messaging platform that can easily and sanely house a population of >50k people on the same server, and allows that for absolutely free, while providing reasonably high quality voice messaging and streaming with negligible latency
While discord doesn’t necessarily cost money, it for sure also isn’t free. In fact it’s the reddit problem but way worse. A proprietary non-searchable database with all content fully licensed to discord including the right to sub-license. At least, Reddit had an API and is still searchable through their public facing http. I mean I get people don’t want their group messages readable by everyone, bit for large groups, it makes sense.
IRC + Mumble.
We had these things in 2007
Why would I ever want that?
I can’t think of a single instance where I want to be messaging 50k people at once
Hence you shouldn’t use discord
Matrix?
Join my discord for tutorials on how to setup your own static webpage!
The self hosted movement should be bigger!
Since when is Discord a proper place to get information? On larger servers, anything you type is gone forever after an hour due to the volume of messages.
Its not.
but people still insist on using it as a information store house. Much to the detriment of everyone.
For someone in Russia, the impermanence might be a desirable feature. I mean, there’s always still IRC but Discord is all the rage these days.
Get off my lawn.
It’s not even properly impermanent because somebody else can just archive everything, ironically giving them better overview than the actual members themselves
Do you not know how to properly search in discord? Sure forums are better but a message in discord isn’t “gone forever” if you’re searching. It’s a pretty fast to search too, which is an insanely impressive feat due to the sheer amount of messages.
Yeah but the searching also kind of sucks for detailed information.
If only we had these things called search engines that indexed websites that had information on them.
Sure, but you also have to know to search for it.
Discord search is only really useful if you already know what the message says
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When I don’t find information through a search engine, I go asking it from people themselves.
Discord is an easy solution for me to find this information at that point. Much easier than generating yet another user account in a website I might use once in my life, while I already use discord a lot.
By the way - you can search for messages you have sent and for messages that were pointed directly to you. Makes delving into old conversations much easier.Of course Telegram and other services like that can help too.
Is Lemmy going to be one of the only places we can go to get uncensored content? Even the mainstream UK and US news outlets are filtering things.
Lmao nah. Lemmy is just decentralized censorship. Anyone can ban or block anything else; anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim. Multiple communities have already defederated in the less than a year that I’ve been on here.
Lemmy solves the issue of centralized censorship/echo chamber communities, by replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers that you get to censor yourself. It’s a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it’s not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.
You always have the option of changing instances if you don’t like what the admins are doing, or creating accounts on those defederated instances to see what they’re up to.
Lemmy is just decentralized censorship.
It more like the opposite. Federated instances can keep all the federated posts without ever deleting them. Then also sell and monetize it.
anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim.
Shutting down an instance doesn’t mean it’s censorship. If a library shuts down if it can’t stay up, is that censorship?
It’s a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it’s not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.
Lol, freeloader says what?
What? There’s censoring all over this place!
With the developers themselves being the biggest offenders.
That’s part of what the fediverse is about.
Lemmy is massively censored. I just got another ban recently for taking about .ml bans in a .world thread.
How does that work? Which server banned you?
I see censorship on Lemmy approaching Reddit levels more often than I’m comfortable with. The same mods moved here unfortunately.
you sound surprised that western governments censor things in their news.
Looks like the Nordic countries have some of the best protections for their press.
The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.
But in general western countries are far better than places like Russia, China, India, the Middle East, etc.
You’re completely ignoring self-censorship practiced by the press in favour of financial gains. “Oops, looks like Nestlé just paid us a lot of cash for an ad. I guess that story about their security force beating up a bunch of slaves won’t be getting a page after all”.
“Nestlé also p̶a̶i̶d̶ gifted/lobbied someone in congress, we can’t be making the politician/billionaire look bad. We might lose our money tree”
People are fed so much clickbait/propaganda by their news, they end up believing ratings made by themselves.
The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.
Not really disappointing looking from the outside. Clickbait constitutions are good for propaganda for the populace. They tell you you’re living in the best country in the world while the politicians propose death sentence for women who have abortions. Cause war crimes the world over while populace thanks them for their service.
“Disappointing” is putting it lightly to the amount of disgrace it has caused.
Why does this get down voted?
