I’ve enough.
Last year the automatic updater was rebooting windows without any warning after the uac prompt. The problem continued for months before being fixed
This year I got an update a week. Very annoying to get the same “why u no reboot? I need updates” question every single time I turn on my PC.
Today when updating it kills explorer.exe without any confirmation and doesn’t bring it back to life.
I don’t think that their paid enterprise customers are doing the beta alpha testers like this. Is it really necessary to push nightlies to end users? It can’t be tested casually for a couple of days then pushed?
I disabled the updates check and will update the nextcloud desktop client manually every 5 years if I can remember. Added an exception to Winget so it doesn’t update it. I lost my patience.
Nobody said “syncthing” on this thread yet, so that will be me.
Finally someone did a windows installer that can add it as a service.
It was super annoying to do it manually on windows, to have it reliably start before login
I don’t think that their paid enterprise customers are doing the beta alpha testers like this. Is it really necessary to push nightlies to end users? It can’t be tested casually for a couple of days then pushed?
I’m sure their enterprise customers are having the same poor experience you’re having.
And FYI nothing is really tested in NC nor nothing is really 100% done, everything is always at 75% and then gets replaced by another half assed implementation.
Ooo, is it made by the people I work for? Because this story sounds incredibly familiar to me.
😂 I’m sure I’m not your boss cause you’re using a Canadian instance and I’m nowhere near Canada. Maybe it’s just that NC underdelivers equally poorly for almost everyone…
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Nextcloud… Sucks. I gave up and decided to just run discreet services for my needs. Ends up being far more reliable.
Running nextcloud (non docker version) and I don’t see near so many client updates - usually once every few weeks, which would be a reasonable expected pace. Server updates are less frequent.
On Windows (all of my primary devices), I just install the NC client update and skip the explorer restart, pending full reboot later. Tis the nature of literally anything that deeply integrates with Explorer. I’ve seen explorer “death” during updates from several vendors that have similar explorer plugins, not just NC. Explorer sometimes just decides to nope out even without NC updating.
Now on one device I hadn’t opened for a while, I saw NC run two updates in a row, but that was my fault for procrastinating the first one.
Here’s the desktop release history: https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/releases
I don’t see a “one every day” within the block of time between Dec 6 and today, unless you had the release candidate builds which may have been more frequent in a few spots.Update:
Today just to show the bug to someone else, I installed the update via Winget on a windows 10 PC and… nothing. It installed silently, didn’t bother with asking a reboot nor crashed explorer.exe. So I went to another windows 11 PC and tried again with the silent updater and… silently updated without badly crashing explorer.
Either nextcloud fixed the installer for real or Microsoft fixed the reason explorer was crashing in the windows update that was pushed yesterday
Finally the days where all the explorer windows will disappear when updating NC desktop are gone?
I’ve used both self-hosted Nextcloud, and an instance set up by my school. I have the client on two different Windows machines, and I can confirm the update either tries to kill explorer.exe, which doesn’t work half of the time, or forces a restart, so you’re not alone with this issue! I also hate the client UI and how it displays conflicted files when multiple people are accessing the same folder. The whole file sync thing feels like a poor attempt to copy Dropbox. My school discontinued Nextcloud support last year because hosting/maintenance took too many resources, they switched to Microsoft i.e. OneDrive and it works much better.
I abandoned nextcloud entirely a couple years ago. It was just too damn flaky (self hosted via docker).
I was genuinely concerened I had a skill issue with NC, glad I’m not alone
My skills are not impressive at all, but my NC instance is rock solid. Its been running on rpi4 for more than 6 months and then moved to Celeron server a year ago. I have disabled most plugins since I dont use them and its been quite fast. Only 2 users though. Linux/Windows/Android clients are auto updated, but I manually update the server (docker). Hope Im not gonna jinx it lol
I’m glad yours is stable! I don’t know why, but mine, if you’d cut a loud fart near the server Nextcloud would just shit the bed on me. God forbid I try to update Nextcloud.
Like you I had most plugins disabled, and I was the only user. I first ran Nextcloud using NextcloudPi on an rpi4, and that ran solid for like four years. However, when I repurposed that pi and moved Nextcloud to my server in Docker, it just would not reliably run for me no matter what I did. At that point I also wasn’t really using Nextcloud anymore so I just abandoned it as not worth the effort.
It’s definitely a YMMV situation. I’ve heard from lots of people that it runs solid as a rock in Docker, and from others like you and me where it’s flaky af.
I turn off auto updates for everything - OS, phone apps, everything. Last thing I need is for stuff to hang, reboot, stop working, or work differently with no notice, which has happened too many times to count.
Every update I do is done while I’m there, with validation after to ensure everything works.
