• @noseatbelt@lemmy.ca
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    1871 year ago

    Covid just made us all realise we know a lot more people than we thought we did who would hide a zombie bite.

  • GigglyBobble
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    941 year ago

    I still can believe the world to rally together when it means to kill something.

    The enemy must be simple though. Too complicated or invisible or something and the conspiracy nuts will take over.

  • @honeyontoast@lemmy.world
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    731 year ago

    I recently watched Utopia, British show about a super secret group putting naughty stuff in a vaccine.

    Their plan hinged on every person being so afraid of a pandemic that everybody takes the vaccine. This was made pre COVID of course, because we now know that would never work.

  • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    661 year ago

    If we had a hostile alien invasion, thousands dead in the first wave, footage of the aliens, everything. half the GOP would still be saying it’s a hoax, and making it into an anti Liberal/anti LGBTQ rant. Part of them would straight up worship the aliens, a bunch of them would drink bleach.

      • @Emerald@lemmy.world
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        71 year ago

        honestly by the time they get the technology to visit planets so far away they’d probably get pretty woke

    • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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      11 year ago

      The GOP would become the “Human Power Elite” trope in “They Live.” Literally I swear to God that was a metaphor for Tim Scott and Herschel Walker. For that matter MTG and Boebert, too.

  • archomrade [he/him]
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    621 year ago

    I happen to really like District 9 for this reason

    There’s no malicious plot of aliens blowing up shit or invading to colonize: nope, aliens literally just crash-landed on accident and humanity was like “stay the fuck right there, we’ll take all your shit until we figure out how to deal with exploit you”

    Humanity is always its own worst-enemy

    • @CitizenKong@lemmy.world
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      171 year ago

      Also, the future of Elysium (also Bloomkamp) looks more and more likely, with the 1 percent fucking off to a luxury space station in orbit and the rest of humanity living in poverty on the destroyed Earth.

      • @Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world
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        31 year ago

        I am still hoping for a Halo like future, with civil war in space, war against aliens, the threat of a dark and ancient threat and all of that. Or maybe just a Stellaris future with the same but more megastructures

  • @books@lemmy.world
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    521 year ago

    Covid proved to me any libertarian hope/dream I had wouldn’t actually work because people would never get together to do the right thing as a group.

    • Tier 1 Build-A-Bear 🧸
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      211 year ago

      I think Don’t Look Up got it pretty right, a lot of people would be willing to band together, if not the majority of the world. But politicians and billionaires would ruin it for everyone even if it means everyone dies. When the time comes we can still band together, and take down the people we need to

      • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        It boiled down to one idiot messing up the entire operation. the story breaks down on the part where he could do that without the government telling him to f— off. That would never be allo-

        oh wait

    • Ook the Librarian
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      https://www.amazon.com/Libertarian-Walks-Into-Bear-Liberate-ebook/dp/B083J1FXY8

      Here’s a plug for a book I’ve never read. I think you’ll like it.

      Edit: I bought it.

      Review: People are scary. Bears like donuts. Sometimes it’s hilarious when those facts combine. Other times, it’s terrifying.

      Therefore, due to my judging you entirely on one sentence, you will enjoy this book. (That is not an exclusive link. Get it anywhere. I bet your library has an app that can send it to your phone.)

    • @fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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      21 year ago

      Honestly same both from and outsider and in group way. Libertarians we’re willing to do nothing to help or worse risk others lives to virtue signal and statist saw governments fail to do anything meaningful and waffle about the best restrictions to put in place and still thought “but if my guy was in charge”.

      There were people making actual differences out there, but it almost always a political.

      I’m glad mutual aid gained some hype for a little bit at least.

    • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      -11 year ago

      Yeah any ideology that’s dependent on nobody prioritizing their self interest over society’s best interest isn’t going to work.

      But that doesn’t mean a functional society isn’t possible. We’re living in one right now. Sure there are a lot of improvements needed, but improvement is possible.

      Utopia actually translates to “no place”. Only fictional people can achieve a utopia. Real life functional societies with real people are an iterative process. Make improvements, some asshole finds a loophole to exploit, make more improvements to prevent assholes from exploiting the system. Repeat. Do that over and over again, vote in elections over and over again to move society a little closer, inch by inch, a little closer to the ideal, even when the ideal isn’t actually possible.

      Societies aren’t created by intelligent design, they’re a product of evolution. But that evolution can be guided by the people that vote. Democracy isn’t something that’s ideal, it’s a grind. You’re never going to be living in an ideal society, but if you try you can make the society you live in a little better.

  • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    421 year ago

    For me it is that book Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs. My kids favorite. The ending is natural disasters make the town unlivable so the population flees to a new home and are welcomed with open arms.

    Yeah that is so fucking bullshit. You telling me that a nice wealthy population would allow foreigners facing death into their land? They would keep them at sea until they all starved and churches would call them rapefugges.

  • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    291 year ago

    Its good for Science Fiction can be aspirational sometimes though.

    Classic Star Trek has humans living in an idealistic society meeting some weirdo aliens doing some weirdo alien shit that causes a lot of problems. Then you realize we’re more like the aliens than the we are like the idealistic future human society. Our society is alien to to an ideal society.

    Then the Enterprise warps off to some other place to do some cool shit somewhere else and the aliens are stuck on their shitty planet because they’re a bunch of losers what can’t get past their weirdo shit.

    The implication is that we could be the cool dudes in a starship constantly doing awesome shit. But instead we’re the losers stuck on a planet that the people in the starships laugh at.

    So the reason why an ideal future isn’t possible is because we can’t get past our weirdo loser ideas.

    I can now picture Kirk, Spock and Bones having a chuckle about some weirdo aliens that can’t advance because they’re stuck in the rut of doomerism.

    “It’s quite illogical that they can’t understand they can never achieve anything if they presume failure before they even try.”

    “Humanity once thought that way a long time ago but we eventually got past it. Anyway, off we go somewhere else to see some other loser aliens doing stupid shit we used to do!”

  • @BossDj@lemm.ee
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    I would have turned the movie off if the narrator said, “The people were terrified, remaining six feet apart. And everyone was hoarding toilet paper.”

  • @brrt@sh.itjust.works
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    …has ruined sci-fi…

    No, just ruined the generic good vs evil trope.

    There’s a lot of good sci-fi (books/movies/series) out there that has a more nuanced take on humans and society.

  • Flying Squid
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    191 year ago

    I hate that COVID makes the Star Trek utopia so much less likely. We’re living in the mirror universe.

      • @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
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        21 year ago

        There must have been an evolutionary change, like predisposition for sociopathy and narcissism and authoritarianism got reduced.

    • Crass Spektakel
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      21 year ago

      For us in Germany it went pretty smooth. Kurdish Immigrants developed the first and very potent vaccine, the industry went into overdrive and delivered faster than anyone could have imagined, a well know Immunologist became Minister for Health, we received daily updates, none of the major party tried to downplay anything, when a new chancellor was voted to power he mostly continued the policy of his predecessor and when priority lists for vaccination were given out people simple honoured them. After two years 75% were vaccinated.

      And trust me, no one drank bleach. Everyone made fun of the stupid Yankees who did.

    • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      21 year ago

      People on the Enterprise would point and laugh at an alien society that’s stuck in a rut because of Doomerism.

      Thinking that cynicism will result in an ideal society is illogical. You can’t control how other people think, you can only control how you think. If everyone is is mired in the cynicism of doomerism, would we be in the ideal Star Trek society?

  • @ZeroTHM@lemmy.world
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    151 year ago

    This is more believable, I think.

    Humans require an external threat to unify against. An alien invasion could provide that. Without some great enemy to oppose, I do not think we would come together willingly.

    • @x4740N@lemmy.world
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      161 year ago

      So, who’s up for false flagging an alien invasion to get earth away from a dystopian path

    • @ARk@lemm.ee
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      131 year ago

      Humans can’t even unify against trump. I’m telling you you’ll be seeing factions worship them aliens while some will be hiding inside their bunkers isolated from everything

      • @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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        101 year ago

        This reminds me of the factions that form in the strategy game Terra Invicta. Some want to kill the aliens, some want to worship them, some want to study them… and my favourite faction, The Initiative, want to use first contact as an opportunity for profit, and they achieve this by sabotaging the other factions and spreading misinformation among the general population.

    • @dumpsterlid@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      We can most certainly come together willingly, it just depends who has the power.

      Ok sure an external threat helps, how about your boss? Most everybody has a boss.

      Or healthcare, unaffordable bad healthcare is perhaps the greatest external threat we all face on earth. We can certainly unify around that, it is absolutely in the realm of possibility.

    • @_number8_@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      yeah i think in 2020 everyone got fed up because it wasn’t like a tangible, visible threat. it’s just invisible, everywhere, all the time. you have to desensitize to some degree to live a semblance of a life.

      if there were alien snipers posted up everywhere it’s a much different matter

    • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      How many times in history the colony was still infighting even under the bootheel. There is no way a united India or a united China or a united South America would have been ruled by the Europeans. They got a billion and homefield the other side has a few hundred guys with muskets.

  • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    131 year ago

    I heard there is a Chinese flood narrative where when the people heard that the local god was pissed and going to make a flood they united and started building infrastructure. The result was the god failed to wipe them out.