Quoting the tl;dr in the linked article:
Samsung could be stepping up its game by offering seven years of major Android updates for the Galaxy S24 series, and the generous update policy might extend to other Galaxy flagships.
The Galaxy S24 series might also introduce charges for AI features like Live Translate and Pixel-like photo editing tools after 2025.
There’s speculation that users may need to sign in to their Samsung accounts for certain AI functionalities.
Samsung could easily win me over if their bootloader was unlock able.
Edit: Apparently it’s just US variants that can’t be unlockedWell, bootloader unlock toggle in developer options and fastboot eom unlock are available, am I missing something?
@Gallardo994 @Osiris you can’t if you have Samsung with Snapdragon
I have Snapdragon variant of S23U (UAE version) and the bootloader is unlockable, are you sure it’s snapdragon specific and not just US-specific, or carrier-specific?
wdym, you just go to dev options and allow it, then reboot and do fastboot unlock.
press power button a couple of times (THIS WILL TRIP KNOX E-FUSE PERMANENTLY WITHOUT ANY WAY TO RECOVER), wait for data to be erased and boom it’s unlockedIt is tho?
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To talk about the article instead of ranting on about niche wants:
- 7 years of updates would be really good. Given how mature the hardware is nowadays, I can see a phone doing 7 years, save for the battery. Will Samsung be able to keep batteries in production?
- I’m less sold on the AI things, I guess that’s the buzzword now. AI AI AI everywhere. Also the two features mentioned are already in Google products, and I’d rather use those if I have to, unless Samsung pulls out a surprise and show that they are better at software development than Google is.
Things I want in a phone:
- Decent camera
- Aux Port - because I want the option
- at least one mappable button
- Expandable SD card slot
- Debloated OS
- good speaker phone
- water resistant and drop resistant
My favorite phone in the last 10 years was the Samsung S8 Active, before that, the HTC One (front facing speakers). Before that, probably the Samsung FlipShot and LG Chocolate.
I miss innovation in phone designs. They’re all the same phone now.
Anyone have any recommendations for the US? I was thinking a fairphone but I think that’s UK only.
After a couple of Redmi Note phones, I’m currently looking at Motorola. I need to see how ROM development is on their phones.
Asus zenfone?
Is it repairability? Do I get root access to my own personal property? Maybe a headphone jack? How about IR blaster so my missing Roku remote doesn’t matter? Can we go so far as a replaceable battery?
Ok I got you. You don’t need to add anything you previously took away. Just give me a public apology for trying to make the phone repair industry die as collateral damage in your vendetta against Apple’s other screen supplier.
Miss me with that AI bullshit, just make the screen completely flat on S24U and I’ll be more than happy.
Please. Who is interested in the curve anymore? I know they just do it for the people in the store.
unless that comes with either a 600-700$ decrease in price or the readdition of a microSD card slot I’m not interested.
After phone storage got beyond 32GB, I thought I won’t need a microSD slot anymore. I was wrong and my 128GB are full again. Downloading shows and music in high quality needs quite a bit of storage, not to mention videos. As if to make matters worse, the OS takes up more storage than my first two phones had at all.
I never understood why anybody wouldn’t need SD access… There’s no way to have a reliable backup location in the event you can’t reach the internet for whatever reason.
Do you need all that on the phone?
for myself I have about 250 gigs of photo/video from my camera since I use it a lot. then about 50 gigs of apps, the lack of an SD card slot is my exclusive reason that I never upgraded from my s20 to newer models. It’s also why I’ve decided to ditch Samsung when my phone finally dies. I just have yet to find a decent alternative that works in my area
Dont take me wrong, i will never defend a manufacturer taking away features for profitens while increasing price… I feel most manufacturer fucks there customer because most people bend over and accept, and the more people do, the more they try to get away with. F hate the current tech climate
I can delete most of the 20 GB of video, as it’s also uploaded to my photo gallery (Immich). Maybe another 5GB of apps that aren’t necessary, which often need a few hundred MB (Paypal 0,5GB).
Anyway, an SD card would solve those issues. Hopefully 256GB will finally be enough storage.
Nah you’ll still run out. Just because you have more storage you start downloading more shows/filmsin higher quality.
Yea, who needs any of that on their phone?
Ive used almost 200gb on mine, but its mostly porn so 🤷, but i have a server to offload on if i want to
I’d say that makes you an outlier.
I know haha
Will they be bringing SD support back? I don’t get how people can use phones without SD support…
Which is funny because I don’t get why people want it. Unless you’re shooting a whole bunch of 4K video, i have no idea why it’s needed.
Here are a few examples of why someone would want it:
Not everyone lives in areas with great wireless connections.
Some are also limited to how much data they can use. So most store their music/movies/pictures on the local SD drive because they don’t use cloud storage.
I have a large music collection and store them on various SD cards in addition to my usually hard drives. When I want to listen to music I pop it in my Sony phone and listen to them. I refuse to use music streaming apps. I’ve tried SoundCloud, Spotify, and Google Music and each one didn’t have niche songs I enjoy. I Also there are various songs across various streaming services that I listen to but none all on the same service. I would rather own the files myself and put together my own comprehensive playlists. So I just pop it into my phone, enjoy the music I like, at no cost to me and I don’t have to worry about my Internet service in various places that I work out of that are deep in a building and don’t get any reception. I have lots of movie files and pornography that take up terrabytes. I need these on a Micro SD card because my phone’s internal storage isn’t large enough. I have another SD card with all my gba roms and saves that I can pop into my phone and play GBA games if I’m waiting around at the DMV, public spaces. Theen when I’m home I can pop that same SD card out with all my saves and roms and put it in my ez flash and play on my actual modded Game Boy Advance or into my modded a GameCube and play them without having to copy and paste save files, etc.
As a photographer i love it
Full disclosure: I didn’t read the article and only read the bulletin points. However, that last point really convinced me leave Scamsung. When I got my current S21 Ultra, I was bummed to find out that I couldn’t root it. I’m about to buy a Pixel 7 Pro and never look back.
I can root my s23 ultra (from what I’ve read at least), however I choose not to because it would permanently break Knox and there would be no way of undoing that outside of replacing the logic board.
With that said, my next phone will probably be a Fairphone.
Are you from the US or the EU/elsewhere? I ask because the reason My S21 can’t be rooted is because the US/Hong Kong Models use Snapdragon CPUs. I don’t know if the same applies to the successors.
I am in US. I went back and found the article I had seen before -> https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk-samsung-galaxy-s23/ I also checked your version and it seems that only the Exinos and Hong Kong Snapdragon versions can be rooted -> https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s21-series-rooted-magisk/
I’ll be leaving the Samsung ecosystem after 10 years. They simply don’t offer a phone for me anymore. I WANT an SD card, and waterproofing. And the A line camera is too shite.
I’ll probably get some Chinese phone next and give them a shot. Samsung can get fucked with the 1000$ phones that continuously remove features.
Which Chinese phone does that? They were the first to copy Apple when they removed all that. The only ones that still have card slots and headphone jacks are all the low-end phones, and heck, even those are going away. Xiaomi has been removing the card slots on the higher-end Redmi Notes.
I think Sony and Asus still have phones with that stuff and a headphone jack
Why not try a Pixel then? I’m on the S22 Ultra and already thinking of giving pixel a go on my next upgrade. They touted 4 years of support for this model but if they increase to 7 then I’ll just need to wait and see what’s out there at that time.
They want an SD card
@Maximilious @AlmightySnoo @madcaesar pixel all the way!
So, when is the camera tech finally going to be good enough to make the camera flush with the phone body?
It is now. Just make the phone thicker instead of having a bump.
Right? Add battery. Nobody cares to have their phone be a fashion model. We want it to last through the day.
I was talking about this earlier but they could use lithium iron phosphate batteries where normally you need the battery life it would now let the battery go nearly 10 years before losing more than 85% of the chance capacity
Any case should already make the cameras flush
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Tizen or whatever they call it now is garbage. That is why I have a pixel.
Do you mean the custom chips they make, exynos? Tizen is their operating system for televisions.
Their OS for phones. It was also called Tizen at one point I think.
Literally never. At best they had a UI called TouchWiz which has long since been replaced by OneUI.
Fuckin hate my Pixel.
Edit: didn’t realize you guys were up Google’s ass this much.
As an iPhone feature, we get these AI features for free and the phones cost the same.
Although im not sure about the photo editing.
The biggest reason I do t use Android is the lack of long term security and software updates.
The second reason is bloatware.
Take something like GrapheneOS if security is important for you:
- No bloatware
- 7 years of updates on the new pixel phones with it
- Much more secure than an iPhone
- An iPhone isn’t really privacy respecting or similar even though Apple always claims it to be
- An iPhone locks you in. Heck you can’t even let Nextcloud or Immich sync files in the background on iOS just because Apple says “no background sync only works good with our own services so you give us your money and use iCloud Photos and Drive”.
I need to use commercial chat apps for work on my phone. I’m concerned they will not work on GrapheneOS.
When it comes to my work, privacy has to come second, so I’m just sticking with the main operating systems.
Which ones? Haven’t experienced any app that doesn’t work with GrapheneOS. Even my banking apps work. Only thing that doesn’t work is Google Pay.
I guess the bigger point is that even if my apps work now, they are so important to my business that if they stopped working then I immediately would not be able to do my work until I got a new phone.
I rely on specific chat apps so heavily to communicate with clients.
lol this is hilarious 😂 it does not matter how long they say you get updates so good as Samsung is in 7 years you are getting 3/4 updates … 😂 😂 😂 but most people eat with the eyes 👀 wow 7 years? I go to buy a Samsung 😂😂😂 do that and come back in 7 years to tell me about your experience good luck
