• Blackout
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    271 year ago

    Do what I do and pull the power. Can’t risk M$ putting ads in my explorer

  • At this point I just accept that my windows desktop is going to reboot itself and update itself every fucking night. I used to be able to leave it on for months at a time only rebooting when I felt like it and had prepared all of my open projects to be rebooted.

    Now I do those projects on my Linux PC, which has to be a separate PC now because the windows updates completely screw up dual booting. Microsoft is such a shit show, I would probably only turn on that PC on the weekends except I need Windows for work.

    • @OR3X@lemm.ee
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      101 year ago

      Put a second hard drive In your PC and install Linux solely to it. Then you can use your BIOS boot menu to choose which OS to boot and Windows can’t wreck GRUB when updating.

      • I thought that too. My (now windows only) computer has two M2 slots, I used one for Linux and one for Windows. One day I walked into my office having left windows running the night before and my computer had rebooted and updated, The first thing I did was try to boot into the Linux partition and it did not work.

        Not taking that chance again, I now have two separate PCs on my desk.

        • @OR3X@lemm.ee
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          Hmm. That’s interesting. The only thing I can think of that could potentially cause that is if for whatever reason there was an exisitng EFI partition on your linux drive. Windows will use whatever EFI it sees even if it’s on a separate drive from it’s primary NTFS partition. As you can imagine this can cause some fucky stuff to happen.

          • @Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml
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            81 year ago

            Some instructions I’ve read for dual booting recommend installing Linux first, removing the SSD wit Linux on it from the computer, and then install Windows to prevent that from happening.

            It’s really shitty that users have to go through all that trouble, though.

  • @lunarul@lemmy.world
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    191 year ago

    I never shut down or restart my computer. Then some mornings I find that Windows decided to automatically restart my computer anyway. I lost a lot of unsaved notes that way.

      • @Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        It wasnt an issue until windows 10 though. It feels like computers are a bit worse now, imo. For some reason, it’s now popular opinion that it’s unsafe to run a computer as long as you like. It’s one of the main reasons I’ll move to Linux… some day

    • @InputZero@lemmy.ml
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      I’m sorry that you’ve lost so much work. Although it’s kind of irresponsible to leave unsaved work open overnight. Perhaps you could look into applications that have an autosave feature? Alternativly if your workflow permits it do your work on the cloud?

      • @lunarul@lemmy.world
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        I do my actual work in the cloud. But when I want to just jut down quick notes I open a Notepad window and write them there. Usually it’s something I need to remember for just a few hours later. Sometimes it’s something I’ll be expanding on somewhere permanent later on. It’s just the most handy place to write something down quickly. Sometimes I have one such window open, sometimes I end up with 6. I just so happened that night I had some more important notes that I didn’t transfer yet. I’ve got into the habit of saving them now just in case, so I have tons of small text files that I’ll probably forget about.

    • geolaw
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      11 year ago

      Do we not turn off our electronic devices to save electricity?

  • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    I’m in two minds about this. On the one hand, philosophically, the user should be in charge of their PC, and updates should happen at a time of their choosing.

    On the other hand, people are idiots. Especially the type of people who think they know everything but in reality don’t. The type that will search for registry hacks or scripts that disable updates, and proceed to live without any security patches, putting not only their own system/data at risk, but others too.

    It’s probably a necessary evil that MS forces security patches on users.

    What isn’t so forgivable is them pushing all the other crap on people, or why the updates take so fucking long on shutdown/startup. That’s what they need to improve. Far fewer people would care about avoiding updates if a reboot after an update was imperceptibly different to any normal startup, like it is on Linux.

    MS is a $3tn company. They can achieve this if they want to, but they see spending money on Windows as a waste of money - why improve something when you’ve already cornered the market? It doesn’t benefit them. It doesn’t make them more money. Windows is dominant either way, they get their licensing fees either way. Improving Windows damages Microsoft.

  • MxM111
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    41 year ago

    What’s power button right? Do power buttons have rights? Or is it right side of power button?

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        Not any longer sadly, kinda amazing how windows has that much control, I always thought it was a way to brute force a shutdown when you can’t do anything else

        Edit: I have the realized the error of my ways thanks to moody, 5sec hold on the power button forces a shutdown, pressing it once is just a software one

    • TheEmpireStrikesDak
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      11 year ago

      Power button has rescue rights. I had to use the power button after Windows forced an update on Friday and my tower just sat there powered on but doing nothing for an hour, no signal to the monitor. Now I feel bad, it was probably just high on drugs.

      Linux mint, I just type sudo apt update and I’m done.

  • Herbal Gamer
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    31 year ago

    I have an extra wireless keyboard laying around just because it has a quick shutdown button on it.

  • @OR3X@lemm.ee
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    People who shutdown their desktop computer everytime they’re done using it are so bizarre to me. Why? What are you trying to protect? I only reboot when updates are needed and otherwise my computer is on 24/7. Been doing this since ~2004 and have never had an issue.

    Edit: I’m not saying you’re wrong if you shutdown everytime. I’m just saying it’s weird to me because it hasn’t been necessary since the mid 2000’s or probably earlier.

    • illectrility
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      111 year ago

      Do you also keep your car running all day for when you have to be somewhere and only turn off the engine at the gas station?

      • @OR3X@lemm.ee
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        That seems like a bad faith argument, but I’ll indulge. Gasoline internal combustion engine aren’t made to run indefinitely and have many components that can wear over time and require regular maintenance. Modern computer hardware has no problem with the task and my “newest” computer which was built back in 2016 has run pretty much non-stop for 8 years now with 0 failure. At this point the hardware is more likely to be replaced due to age than failure. The only argument I can see making sense is maybe the cost of electricity aspect; but even then modern power supplies are so efficient I’d be surprised if it costs me more than $10/yr. to leave my PC on so I don’t it’s a very strong argument.