• Marxism-Fennekinism
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    2 years ago

    Can any Americans confirm or refute whether US schools actually punish you for getting beaten up regardless of whether you tried to defend yourself? It sounds way too stupid to be true yet I hear about it again and again.

    Also what the hell happened to Stand Your Ground that the US is so infamous for? That doesn’t apply to children who are victims of assault and battery?

    • @UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 years ago

      One of the most common types of bullying in the US is the use of zero tolerance anti bullying rules as a mechanism for bullying.

      Example: kid A punches kid B. Then immediately kid A reports kid B for bullying him because kid A knows how the bullying rules work (because they are a bully). Then kid B gets in trouble for getting bullied.

      Typically kid A’s parents will enthusiastically back then too because their kid “gets bullied all the time” while kid Bs parents aren’t experienced with the policies and aren’t positive that their kid didn’t do something wrong (because they are normal parents), so they don’t fight it too hard and just want it to go away.

      Ask any teacher in the US and they will tell you that they see this all the time and most every kid that supposedly “gets bullied all the time” is doing exactly this.

      • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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        42 years ago

        Twin. Prairies.

        They used to beat him up a lot. He was smaller and shyer. And they’d wait until I was out of sight so they could get a few licks in before I could run up to them and kick the bully in the fucking kidneys; whatever. Then it was on.

        Those are my spare body parts you’re pummeling.

    • @ShunkW@lemmy.world
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      182 years ago

      Yes. I got 3 days in alternative school for getting punched because “I was in a fight”. The next time I made it worth it and fought back instead of just trying to avoid being hit.

    • @QuantumStorm@lemmy.world
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      Yep, got suspended once for thrusting my rolling back pack at a kids face. He then punched and knocked a lense out of my glasses.

      In 11th grade i snapped at one of my bullies and just went white with rage. Next thing I know I’m on top of him choking him. I got board suspended for a week for that. Fuck the US school system.

    • RobotsLeftHand
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      72 years ago

      My schools had a zero tolerance policy for anyone involved in a fight for any reason. I saw a few kids suspended for clearly defending themselves. My father gave me regular talks to let me know that so long as the other person attacked first he’d fully support me defending myself however I needed.