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THE TWO MOST STOLEN ITEMS IN THE WORLD: a pen labeled Surplus Value of Workers Labor, and a lighter labeled Indigenous Land

  • ZILtoid1991
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    112 years ago

    With that same logic, the American settlers are just “second wave native Americans”. Of course one can argue that Jews always lived at the area of Palestine/Israel, but currently Israel is the aggressor, even if the actions of Hamas are very immoral.

    • @rchive@lemm.ee
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      12 years ago

      Don’t be silly. There were lots of waves of migrants before European settlers of America. They’d be more than the 2nd wave. 😉

    • MxM111
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      -82 years ago

      So, Allies we’re aggressors when they were liberating Germany in WW2?

      • cyruseuros
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        152 years ago

        Let’s get one thing straight, Germany was not liberated, it was defeated.

        Of course we can say not all… But that’s a sociological tautology.

        It’s exactly this kind of west = good silent premise that’s making us miss what’s beginning to brew over there again now that things are getting tough. Just like it did last time.

        I’m not saying Germans are evil, but we need to be careful with this kind of subtle revisionism. I suspect you didn’t even say it intentionally - it’s just a phrase that’s often used around you, and that’s what makes it doubly dangerous.

        Nothing against you man, I’m just a tad disenchanted with the current state of things is all.

        • MxM111
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          12 years ago

          You totally missing my point. Who was aggressor in WW2? Were allies aggressors when they entered with military force (have no idea what word to use, since you do not like liberated) into Germany?

          • cyruseuros
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            12 years ago

            Not missing it, just not addressing it. The topic wasn’t of particular interest from that angle. Not to me anyway.

            It’s not that I dislike the word liberated, it’s that it’s completely inaccurate in this case, and those kinds of inaccuracies do have consequences, however slight at first.

            Defeated is a good word. Invaded is another. Liberated isn’t.