• Ook the Librarian
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      -12 years ago

      Do you know any useful biological models that are limitless and not exponential? You seem to think that “life is based on” them?

      Also the exponential discussion is a red-herring. You just picked out a detail that was misstated, and pretend to win.

      Now seriously, have you ever heard anyone claim life is based on unlimited growth (outside of this meme)?

        • @lugal@lemmy.world
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          -12 years ago

          until the resources or something else intervenes

          Sounds like a limit to me. The entire point is that economic models often don’t take this kind of limits into account. Source: read a book

          • @LemmysMum@lemmy.worldOP
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            -12 years ago

            Sounds like a limit to me. The entire point is that economic models often don’t take this kind of limits into account.

            You need to re-read the meme. You’re so close but you can’t see the forest for the trees.

            • @lugal@lemmy.world
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              12 years ago

              The meme makes fun of a post that compares capitalism to cancer by saying “all life is about limitless growth, not just cancer”. This is wrong. Life “knows” its limits. Capitalism doesn’t, neither does cancer

              • @LemmysMum@lemmy.worldOP
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                So what limit does life know about time? Or will it continue for eternity?

                Also might want to look up that latin phrase, I didn’t put it there because it sounded like a fancy spell, it’s a legitimate train of philosophical thought that you obviously have no comprehension of.

                • @lugal@lemmy.world
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                  02 years ago

                  You know the difference between existing and growing, do you? You can continue to exist for eternity without growing. A stone doesn’t grow, neither does a forest necessarily even though the trees do until they die. So each tree grows but not for eternity, and the forest doesn’t grow but exists (potentially) for eternity. Capitalism would want the tree to grow eternity.

                  This is a simplification, so is the original post. You can disagree with it and with me, but don’t call me illiterate. I try to keep calm and civil but if you don’t understand my points, maybe you are stupid not me.

                  • @LemmysMum@lemmy.worldOP
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                    You can continue to exist for eternity without growing.

                    Object can, life can’t. Life is the subject matter.

                    A stone doesn’t grow, neither does a forest necessarily even though the trees do until they die. So each tree grows but not for eternity, and the forest doesn’t grow but exists (potentially) for eternity.

                    Yes.

                    Capitalism would want the tree to grow eternity.

                    No. Capitalism wants to grow from the limited resources of the tree for eternity.

                    Just like cancer wants to grow from the limited resources in your body for eternity.

                    Just like life wants to grow from the universes limited resources until eternity.

                    All inevitably unsustainable.

    • @lugal@lemmy.world
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      -12 years ago

      Limitless as in time, not quantity.

      What does that even mean? Time is on the x-axis, what is on the y-axis if not quantity?

      Your entire premise is false because you’re illiterate.

      Sorry for reading the wrong books apparently…