• @lugal@lemmy.world
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    -12 years ago

    until the resources or something else intervenes

    Sounds like a limit to me. The entire point is that economic models often don’t take this kind of limits into account. Source: read a book

    • @LemmysMum@lemmy.worldOP
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      -12 years ago

      Sounds like a limit to me. The entire point is that economic models often don’t take this kind of limits into account.

      You need to re-read the meme. You’re so close but you can’t see the forest for the trees.

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        12 years ago

        The meme makes fun of a post that compares capitalism to cancer by saying “all life is about limitless growth, not just cancer”. This is wrong. Life “knows” its limits. Capitalism doesn’t, neither does cancer

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          2 years ago

          So what limit does life know about time? Or will it continue for eternity?

          Also might want to look up that latin phrase, I didn’t put it there because it sounded like a fancy spell, it’s a legitimate train of philosophical thought that you obviously have no comprehension of.

          • @lugal@lemmy.world
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            02 years ago

            You know the difference between existing and growing, do you? You can continue to exist for eternity without growing. A stone doesn’t grow, neither does a forest necessarily even though the trees do until they die. So each tree grows but not for eternity, and the forest doesn’t grow but exists (potentially) for eternity. Capitalism would want the tree to grow eternity.

            This is a simplification, so is the original post. You can disagree with it and with me, but don’t call me illiterate. I try to keep calm and civil but if you don’t understand my points, maybe you are stupid not me.

            • @LemmysMum@lemmy.worldOP
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              You can continue to exist for eternity without growing.

              Object can, life can’t. Life is the subject matter.

              A stone doesn’t grow, neither does a forest necessarily even though the trees do until they die. So each tree grows but not for eternity, and the forest doesn’t grow but exists (potentially) for eternity.

              Yes.

              Capitalism would want the tree to grow eternity.

              No. Capitalism wants to grow from the limited resources of the tree for eternity.

              Just like cancer wants to grow from the limited resources in your body for eternity.

              Just like life wants to grow from the universes limited resources until eternity.

              All inevitably unsustainable.

              • @lugal@lemmy.world
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                02 years ago

                Just like life wants to grow from the universes limited resources until eternity.

                That’s not the same since life stops growing at some point like I stop trying to explain simple facts to you at this point. I rather read a book than discuss with trolls. But like capitalism, I should have stopped earlier.

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                  Yes, life stops growing when the resources run out. Just like capitalism, just like cancer.

                  The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, second best time is now. Go plant the seeds of a better education. Have a good life.

                  • @lugal@lemmy.world
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                    02 years ago

                    I say it one more time: capitalist models expect limitless growth. That’s the problem since there is no limitless growth. It is this discrepancy of expectation and reality that makes capitalism so destructive.