• @Julianus@lemmy.mlOP
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    22 years ago

    So Russia is self-sufficient and doesn’t need to trade or it’s a huge global exporter? Which is it?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      -12 years ago

      Russia can be self sufficient and be a huge global exporter at the same time, what is the contradiction here exactly?

      • @Julianus@lemmy.mlOP
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        -12 years ago

        It’s neither though. Can Russia replace a single one of all the jets it lost today? Nope. It can’t make it’s own computer chips. That’s why they held back so long. But now, in desperation, they must risk them. In contested airspace, where they are getting picked off.

        Is Russia hugely exporting anything? Not at the moment.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          -12 years ago

          Are you suggesting Russia somehow forgot how to make jets? Russia has been making its own computer chips since 2014, and in fact its been their policy that all the military equipment must use domestic chips. You continue to show yourself to be an utter ignoramus on the subject of Russia. And yes, Russia is hugely exporting everything at the moment including to western countries. To put it bluntly, you’re an idiot who continues to spread misinformation on this site. Every comment you make is full of utter nonsense that can be disproved by two minutes of googling. You are a troll.

          • @Julianus@lemmy.mlOP
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            22 years ago

            All those Russian jets shot down today are irreplaceable after the sanctions. They could hardly afford them before. Face it, mafia states aren’t very efficient if there’s corruption all down the line. Getting pissy doesn’t change the reality of it.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              You keep repeating that because you don’t understand what you’re talking about. You are a shameless charlatan. Meanwhile, here’s what actual experts have to say about all this

              https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fbusiness%2F2022%2F03%2F06%2Feconomic-war-will-test-wests-resolve%2F

              The shipping giants are like commercial red blood corpuscles, carrying the oxygen-equivalent goods that allow the vital organs of the global economy to function.

              The inability of Western firms to ship consumer goods to Russia will hurt, depriving them of what has become one of the world’s most lucrative markets. Of far more significance will be the inflation generated by the lack of commodity and raw material exports from Russia – not just energy, but food and metals.

              Consider also that fertiliser is made using natural gas and potash – with Russia and its ally Belarus accounting for two fifths of the world’s potash exports. That explains why fertiliser prices are soaring across the Western world. And the resulting rise in cultivation costs will, inevitably, drive up food prices too.

              Much has been made of the extent of the Western world’s sanctions – and rightly so. To see the likes of the US and UK joined by Switzerland and Japan in effectively declaring economic war on Russia is jaw-dropping.

              • @Julianus@lemmy.mlOP
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                12 years ago

                The question becomes, is it worth the price? Did Chamberlain trade Germany’s neighbors for “peace in our time?” Or did unchecked Nazi aggression only lead to a escalation of worse outcomes? You’re advocating that just letting Putin have Ukraine because prices will become too high? But he’d clearly move on to the rest of his lost Soviet empire, with the same phony tactics. Is that worth the loss of “lucrative markets”? Yes, it is.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                  -22 years ago

                  People like you act tough because you don’t think that you’re going to be personally affected by all this. We’ll see what kind of tune you’ll be singing once the reality sets in.

                  Meanwhile, don’t pretend to give a shit about the people of Ukraine. The west overthrew their democratic government to put a right wing regime in place that’s been waging a civil war for the past eight years. And you ghouls have been goading Ukraine to fight Russia pretending that you were going to support it. Then when Russia invaded the west didn’t lift a finger to help. The blood is on the hands of people like you who have been fanning the flames of war and cheering all this on. You’re a soulless ghoul.

                  • @Julianus@lemmy.mlOP
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                    12 years ago

                    Use the sponge between your ears. The west thrived during the Cold War, while the Soviet Union went broke. Tell me again, how Russia – alone this time – is vital to the world’s economy? They’ll just become a Chinese client state, at best.

                    If you care about the Ukrainians, go protest in Moscow to end Putin’s war, along with all those brave Russians. All your lies are pathetically transparent.