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@ericbomb@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 2 years ago

May as well buy burgers in the US, since you already paid for most of it through taxes!

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May as well buy burgers in the US, since you already paid for most of it through taxes!

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@ericbomb@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 2 years ago
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    Oh man, staple crops are subsidized waaaaaayyy more heavily than beef. Some of this grain goes to the beef industry as feed, so it is indirectly supported by taxes. But the reality is that the soy, barley, beans, or whatever else is in that veggie burger are subsidized directly and more extensively.

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      Where in the WORLD did you hear that bit of propaganda?

      https://agriculturefairnessalliance.org/news/2020-farm-subsidies/

      https://scet.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/CopyofFINALSavingThePlanetSustainableMeatAlternatives.pdf

      https://www.aier.org/article/the-true-cost-of-a-hamburger/

      https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2022/02/usda-livestock-subsidies-near-50-billion-ewg-analysis-finds

      I can’t even find any source saying more money is spent on any crop than on beef. It seems like it’s totally made up. The numbers vary because it’s hard to pin down, but I can’t find a source saying anything besides “most subsidiaries go towards beef and dairy”

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      Many of those types of crops used for feed aren’t really aligned all that well. Corn for instance isn’t going used so heavily in a plant-based diet as it is subsidized (corn is the most subsidized crop in the US). There is also separate food-grade and feed-grade soybeans. 90% of US soy production is going to feed (and not to mention a good portion of the other 10% is going to soybean oil which is not super helpful for a plant-based meat)

      90% of U.S. soybeans produced are used as a high-quality protein source for animal feed

      https://soygrowers.com/key-issues-initiatives/key-issues/other/animal-ag/

      Further, they are still getting massive amounts of direct subsidies

      The Department of Agriculture has spent almost $50 billion in subsidies for livestock operators since 1995, according to an EWG analysis.

      By contrast, since 2018 the USDA has spent less than $30 million to support plant-based and other alternative proteins that may produce fewer greenhouse gases and may require less land than livestock.

      https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2022/02/usda-livestock-subsidies-near-50-billion-ewg-analysis-finds

      Also worth mentioning that beans are not particularly highly subsidized unless you are counting soybeans mentioned earlier.

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