• plu
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    12 years ago

    Nonbinary Marxist here — queerfeminist theory is not synonymous with ‘anything pro-LGBT’, but is a very specific outgrowth of idealist, liberal ideologies roughly related with postmarxist anti-Marxist ideas. Instead of analyzing the material, objective world, they proclaim a world of all equally as valid “experiences” that you are not allowed to question if you are not yourself part of the groups associated with them. They believe language policing and representation in media would solve the resentment of conservative people against LGBT people and women, instead of sexism and bigotry being a direct result of capitalist division tactics.

    Queerfeminism is a liberal ideology that works with representation and appeasement politics and not on a revolutionary modus. Proletarian feminism is the way to go, and queer liberation can not come through ‘queerfeminism’ but instead through a workers’ revolution with the right programme.

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      2 years ago

      and queerfeminist theory is not synonymous with being liberal, as for instance also (radical) communist/marxist/anarchist variants of that exist.

      I agree that materialist analysis is necessary, but some parts of non-liberal/radical queerfeminism contain materialist analysis?

      Proletarian feminism is the way to go, and queer liberation can not come through ‘queerfeminism’ but instead through a workers’ revolution with the right programme.

      I disagree that workers revolution leads necessarily to queer liberation. For that to happen you need to include analyse for instance power structures and similar stuff. And this is part of the radical variants. So for instance: worker revolution can also lead to a society in which male workers decide everything and have much power.

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        A workers’ revolution will not succeed in liberating the working class and building a classless society anyway if it can’t even identify and fight capitalist division strategies in their own lines. Any communist party that’s successful necessarily unites the entire proletariat, and if they don’t, they’re not successful (for long). Of course a communist party needs to analyse everything correctly, and that includes things like queer issues, but that applies to all topics including others like national liberation or the women’s question. You don’t need a specific queerfeminist communist party as opposed to a normal communist party in order to solve LGBTQ issues. A good communist party has a correct program.

        Queerfeminism itself is a very specific ideology that is decidedly liberal and idealistic. It’s like Marxism a certain school of thought, not a general set of values. Queer liberation plus feminism does not equal queerfeminism. It’s a term that means a specific ideology spearheaded among others by Judith Butler.