also thanks for the recommendation, @NormieGirl@lemmy.perthchat.org
hmm, i don’t have much experience about cross instance moderation work, but i trust the experience of @NormieGirl@lemmy.perthchat.org
–> so yes, i would be very happy to welcome you in the moderation team!
but then the problem is that for instance women are excluded from such movement (probably?) -> and i think the criticism of women in such movements is very important.
so yes i agree that leftist men need to do some work in that area, but i think it is better when noone is excluded from that.
For instance, as @Grograman@sopuli.xyz said:
A lot of issues that men face are directly because of the patriarchy so dismantling it is the only way to fight for men’s rights. Not being taken seriously in sexual assaults, not being equally considered for custody, not being able to express emotions - all of these come from the bullshit patriarchal view of strong men and weak women that the patriarchy enforces. It’s all the same fight.
I think this is important to understand for all people, not only for men. and i think the quality of understanding is higher when all views are included, from all genders.
at the same time:
i recommend to read JJ Bola’s book “Mask Off : Masculinity Redefined”.
Probably a good short version is “Why toxic masculinity hurts men: JJ Bola explains all” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekPg-ZGqvb8
i think this is a good starting point in dismantling patriarchy. But still, dismantling patriarchy is very important.
As a male leftist, i’m critical about that - i think the biggest danger of such a group is that they would not be able to dismantle patriarchy and male supremacy behavior. So the danger would be: if queerfeminist activists criticize this mens group because of patriarchy, their response is “yes, thanks for the critique, we fix that” - but everything stays the same because those men care more about the feminist label and the reputation and the feeling of being feminist than the actual dismantling of male supremacy and patriarchy in leftist groups.
For instance: currently, leftwing groups also have sometimes sexual violence towards women or queer people. From experience (as a male leftist), what happens in many cases is that - especially men - have a bad/superficial understanding of patriarchy and therefore do not stand in solidarity to victims of sexual violence. Patriarchy means that it is quite likely some male friends either have been abusive in the past - or will be abusive in the future. This is a consequence from our society not explaining how good sexual consensus work, how manipulative some behavior can be, etc.
So in short: it is quite likely that those men would not held their friends accountable and talk about how patriarchy works etc, and NOT make sure that something like that (patriarchal behavior) doesn’t happen again.
tldr: as a male leftist working in this area, i am not sure if this group would be able to gain the necessary knowledge about patriarchy, sexual violence, abusive behavior, and other aspects of “toxic” masculinity.
@dessalines@lemmy.ml @nutomic@lemmy.ml
response to the linked github ticket:
instead of limiting the posts, i think the easiest way would be to just adapt the lemmy ranking algorithm https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/about/ranking.html to include the amount of posts per user and per community. So that it is also logratithmic.
this is what i mean with the above post, that the more a user posts, slowly the ranking decreases for each post. Also for the community.
this is a better solution
i think it makes also sense for the ones you subscribe to. for instance, i have usually like 5 posts from lemmygrad in my feed because they have both many posts and many upvotes - which means high liklihood that their post lands in a high position in the feed.
compare that to instances which are for instance very new and get not many posts and not many upvotes, or only not many upvotes. --> i don’t see them much on my timeline
–> so i think applying that on all communities increases diversity overall, in the lemmyverse
and queerfeminist theory is not synonymous with being liberal, as for instance also (radical) communist/marxist/anarchist variants of that exist.
I agree that materialist analysis is necessary, but some parts of non-liberal/radical queerfeminism contain materialist analysis?
Proletarian feminism is the way to go, and queer liberation can not come through ‘queerfeminism’ but instead through a workers’ revolution with the right programme.
I disagree that workers revolution leads necessarily to queer liberation. For that to happen you need to include analyse for instance power structures and similar stuff. And this is part of the radical variants. So for instance: worker revolution can also lead to a society in which male workers decide everything and have much power.
yes, my deleted question was just missunderstanding your question and asking for clarification, but after thinking about it i understood it better