• @geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    8 days ago

    I don’t think Germans visiting those concentration camps paid any attention and I don’t think they have any guilt towards the Holocaust whatsoever.

    If they did Germans would be absolutely disgusted with a new genocide happening with German support. Hell the AfD neo-Nazis are the most popular party in Germany these days.

    Germany similar to the USA has a very strong Zionist lobby and that’s it. They do not care about the Holocaust.

    • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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      118 days ago

      The Holocaust once came up in conversation with a German and he was moved to tears. He was an older generation though, somewhat less removed from the reality.

        • @EisFrei@lemmy.world
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          28 days ago

          My parents were born late in the 1940s.

          Both are disgusted by the actions of Israel as well as Hamas.

          What’s your point?

          • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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            07 days ago

            So your parents would have been disgusted by both the actions of the Nazis and the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. Sounds like they were ‘good Germans’

            • @EisFrei@lemmy.world
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              17 days ago
              • Warsaw ghetto was closed in 1943. The war was over in 1945. As I said, they were born in the late 40s.
              • They also know how to differentiate between Hamas and Palestinians.
              • You are implying that Palestinians and Hamas are one and the same. Which they are not.
              • You are also equating Hamas and the Jews massacred in the Warsaw ghetto.
                • Hamas are terrorists. The Jews were not.
                • Hamas did deserve a forceful reaction. The Palestinians did not.
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                7 days ago

                Warsaw ghetto was closed in 1943. The war was over in 1945. As I said, they were born in the late 40s.

                Hence why I said “would have”.

                They also know how to differentiate between Hamas and Palestinians.

                Clearly not, given that Hamas aren’t a different species or people. Hamas is literally the government of Gaza, it is made up of Palestinians.

                You are implying that Palestinians and Hamas are one and the same. Which they are not.

                This is always just a lazy excuse to keep massacring Palestinians.

                Hamas are terrorists. The Jews were not.

                “They weren’t terrorists, they were freedoms fighters!”

                You would have called the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto uprising terrorists.

                Hamas did deserve a forceful reaction

                You would have justified the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto in the same way.

                Turns out, any time someone says they disagree with “both a sides” of a genocide, you don’t have to dig far to discover that they support the genocide

                • @EisFrei@lemmy.world
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                  07 days ago

                  Hence why I said “would have”.

                  You also said “Sounds like they were ‘good Germans’”

                  I don’t even with the rest of your message. You know two things. How to argue in bad faith and intentionally misunderstand people.

                  • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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                    17 days ago

                    You also said “Sounds like they were ‘good Germans’”

                    So your objection to the idea that your parents would have been good Germans is just “they were born to make late”?

                    I don’t even with the rest of your message. You know two things. How to argue in bad faith and intentionally misunderstand people.

                    I’ve been entirely good faith and haven’t intentionally misunderstood anything. You’re just launching personal attacks now because you don’t have a counter argument

      • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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        48 days ago

        I have some preconceptions about the Nazis too.

        My perception of Germans would greatly improve if they did not come running to defend their government’s complicity in genocide all the time.

        • @Strider@lemmy.world
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          18 days ago

          I don’t think bashing you is helpful, that’s why I kept it short. The other comment here made some excellent points.

          The main gist being we’re not allowed to say anything about this. We’re really not.

          So this very and too late message is impressive, for our circumstances.

          Don’t mix what we’re allowed to say with the public opinion.