This is gonna sound like a troll post but i assure you it is not.

I don’t have a coding background but I’ve used Teams in a lot of workplaces and really only encountered like 2 issues entirely.

Either I got seriously lucky or it was before enshittification.

Why do you yourself dislike it? Is it UI? Performance?

I should also say I use Teams for basic purposes like messaging and uploading files, I literally don’t touch anything else and performance hadn’t been an issue. (Likely because I’ve been given thicc-ass workstations in the past)

  • @hddsx@lemmy.ca
    47•4 months ago

    Why is teams terrible?

    1. Why can I see multiple calendars in outlook but only see my calendar in teams? How does that make it useful to schedule team meetings?

    2. Why are updates always available even though I just updated?

    3. Why can I only pin one post in a group chat?

    4. Why does teams always use its own audio settings over the system settings?

    5. Why haven’t they implemented proper push to talk?

    6. Why is it that every few updates one of my meeting members randomly gets muted?

    7. Why does “Meet Now” basically accomplish what a group call does but the notifications don’t really go out?

    8. Why do I need to”Apps” in my teams?

    9. After my call hangs up because the phone app is having issues, how come the other person could still see and hear me?

    10. Why do you assume I want to use onedrive?

    11. Why can’t my favorites also appear in chats in a chronological order?

    12. Why is @everyone even a feature? This isn’t discord.

    • TJA!
      8•4 months ago

      I think the calendar thing recently changed. It is now very similar to Outlook

    • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
      3•4 months ago
      1. Why is the agenda of a meeting not visible in the mini-view of the meeting. Why do I need to click into the meeting details to see the agenda (which is often just a SharePoint link for most meetings).
    • @sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
      1•4 months ago

      Heads up, you can see multiple calendars at the same time. The apps thing is interesting because you can embed things like PBI dashboards into a channel, making it easy for everyone to access. It is possible that the configuration at your work is preventing these things. But even when properly configured, everything is just 16 easy clicks away. Ugg.

        • @sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
          2•4 months ago

          It is like a quest I’m on with MS to let them know that poor configuration is the number one impediment to their products. Users can’t tell the difference and assume it is always MS, when it is only them a portion of the time. 😉

    • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
      -16•4 months ago

      1. You can see other people’s calendars in Teams, just click “schedule meeting” and use the scheduling assistant just like you would in outlook. If you’re looking at calendars manually before booking meetings you’re doing it wrong to start with.

      2. They aren’t.

      3. To prevent stupid people pinning so many messages that the feature becomes useless.

      4. Because the system settings are usually not what you want, most people don’t leave their headset on all day and only pick it up for calls.

      5. What’s wrong with Ctrl+Spacebar? I use it all the time

      6. Why are updates happening during your meetings? How would that even work?

      7. I’ll agree with this one, meet now isn’t useful. Just call the person.

      8. Because teams is a Communications AND Collaboration tool, if you’re only using it for communication you’re clearly haven’t taken any sort of training on how to use it properly or you’d be using the apps all the time.

      9. Never had this happen

      10. I agree with this one, I hate OneDrive, it’s bad data governance. Everything should live in a shared space at work.

      11. If you have so many favorites that it’s an issue, you’re doing it wrong. See #3.

      12. Because some types of organizations use this frequently, just because a feature doesn’t apply to your work situation doesn’t mean it doesn’t apply to others.

      Edit: Oof, people don’t like to have it pointed out that they lack education do they?

      • snooggumsEnglish
        9•4 months ago

        To prevent stupid people pinning so many messages that the feature becomes useless.

        Because the system settings are usually not what you want, most people don’t leave their headset on all day and only pick it up for calls.

        “Teams knows best!”

        • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
          -3•4 months ago

          Teams in in use by a few hundred million users, and most of them don’t complain about them. So maybe they do know best.

          • @SMillerNL@lemmy.world
            7•4 months ago

            Every time we have to join the Teams call of another company, every one of my colleagues (in a GSuite company) complains how bad Teams is at doing calls. Isn’t it supposed to be a tool for doing calls?

            • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
              -5•4 months ago

              No, it’s not.

              Teams is a Communications and Collaboration tool, not strictly a communications tool. It makes certain tradeoffs in order to optimize it for it’s intended use case.

              • @SMillerNL@lemmy.world
                7•4 months ago

                So that’s why it’s much worse than Google Meet at doing the one thing I need to use it for.

                Interesting choice by Microsoft to make everyone who isn’t using the entire suite think they’re just terrible at the job you expect from them.

                • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
                  -5•4 months ago

                  Anyone who has a software license for Teams has their entire suite, and Microsoft doesn’t market enterprise products to end users.

      • @hddsx@lemmy.ca
        2•4 months ago
        1. I have literally three people on my team. It is more efficient to have three people’s calendars up and just create a meeting for the open space. Why would I do something that is LESS efficient because that’s how teams wants me to work?
        2. I’m glad that you can agree that there aren’t always updates. Could you pleaes explain why, then, there has been an “Updates available” button on my teams for three weeks even after I press it?
        3. OK. There are again, three people on my team. Also, maybe don’t form chats with stupid people?
        4. Nobody in my organization uses a headset. Ever. We use bluetooth headphones.
        5. Because i’d like to set my own shortcut like literally every other voice application?
        6. There are not updates in my meeting. Every few updates of the application, when I am on a call with team members, someone randomly gets muted through no action of anyone in the call.
        8. I’ve tried to use the collabration tools. They aren’t that useful. OneNote is more useful. I understand if you are forced to use it because you don’t have more efficient methods of collaboration. But I do. So, again, why would I choose a less efficient way of collaboration?
        9. Yes, it’s a bug.
        11. Why do you think I have too many favorites? I have 5.
        12. The exact opposite arguement can be used for so many of your replies.
      • @Stovetop@lemmy.world
        1•3 months ago
        1. Because the system settings are usually not what you want, most people don’t leave their headset on all day and only pick it up for calls.

        So this is where I think you may be misunderstanding system settings, because the system device can switch automatically when a headset is connected. Teams does not.

        If I am at my home office, I don’t bother with a headset, I use the built in speaker and mic of my laptop. At work, though, when I don’t want to broadcast my meetings out to everyone, I connect my Bluetooth earbuds. So I connect those, my system knows to automatically change my audio device, I connect to a Teams call, and…the audio is still coming out of my speakers.

        No other application on my PC works like this. Zoom works fine. Discord works fine. Like Teams, those sorts of apps have in-app selections for audio device, but unlike Teams they have the courtesy to include a “use system default” option.