IDF: Whoops, tee hee.

    • KillingTimeItself
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      8 months ago

      i think they killed like, 12 people, and injured somewhere between 1-2 thousand more, probably some civilians in there, but these are military pagers to my knowledge so it’d be weird for it to hurt a bunch of random people, but it’s possible.

      if you include the radio attack i think it’s like another 40 dead, and like 500 injured? Don’t quote me on it.

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          28 months ago

          yeah that’s what wikipedia is saying. I’m unsure if this includes the radio attacks also though.

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        08 months ago

        these are military pagers

        They were a shipment for general consumption that went to a dealer near the Iranian embassy.

        The target was the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, and virtually everyone else was just collateral damage.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          28 months ago

          They were a shipment for general consumption that went to a dealer near the Iranian embassy.

          yeah, that’s generally how products work. Even in the US military the government just walks up to a company and goes "can you make this? And if they say yes they pay them money, or times of war just go “hey i need you to make this”

          the only difference here is that it’s not quite a formally established military, so it’s using off the shelf components and products, which is pretty common for these smaller groups.

          although depending on the dealer, that dealer may have been the source of intrusion, so there’s that.

          The target was the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, and virtually everyone else was just collateral damage.

          targeting one specific guy through the most broad means possible seems, weird. I doubt this was a highly specific attack. It would be a very, very odd way to do it, but then again this conflict has been nothing but odd, so i can’t really put it past them lol.

          Regardless, i doubt they solely intended to target that one guy. While everyone else is technically collateral, it’s probably considered to be beneficial to the cause. At least by israel.

          • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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            18 months ago

            targeting one specific guy through the most broad means possible seems, weird.

            Not that weird, in the history of espionage. As another example, the CIA used a vaccine drive in Pakistan to target Osama bin Laden’s hideout.

            Regardless, i doubt they solely intended to target that one guy.

            When your government believes neighboring ethnicities are “bug people” who need to be exterminated, collateral damage is viewed as a perk.

            • KillingTimeItself
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              18 months ago

              Not that weird, in the history of espionage. As another example, the CIA used a vaccine drive in Pakistan to target Osama bin Laden’s hideout.

              “The program was ultimately unsuccessful. It led to the arrest of a participating physician, Shakil Afridi, and was widely ridiculed as undermining public health.”

              hmm. Also it seems this was to check DNA from blood samples. So not really a good comparison here.

              When your government believes neighboring ethnicities are “bug people” who need to be exterminated, collateral damage is viewed as a perk.

              i mean that’s a potential reason, but these are also pagers meant for military communications purposes right? Why wouldn’t you want to target military personnel if you’re already gunning for one person. Besides these are probably more dangerous left unexploded than what currently happened. Imagine what would happen in 20 years when these make their way onto the second hand markets. You could very well accidentally kill innocent people then. You can still do it now, but since they’ve presumably all been deactivated, it’s probably not a huge concern.

              There are definitely concerns over war crimes and shit, but unfortunately i’m not the ICC or ICJ so i can’t comment on that with authority.

    • @WhyFlip@lemmy.world
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      No, it’s not. This was a very tactical way of striking an enemy that hides behind women and children.

      • @Elwynn@lemmy.ml
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        78 months ago

        So would Netanyahu also be considered as hiding behind women and children? He’s out in public, traveling and lives in Tel Aviv.

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        This was a very tactical

        Flinging a hand grenade into a crowd several thousand times over

        But it’s okay because the crowd was full of Arabs aka Terrorists

        • @OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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          18 months ago

          There’s a big difference between dropping bombs and small pagers exploding. I watched a lot of those videos, and almost no one except the targets were injured.

          It’s really sad that anyone else got injured at all, but damn, I’m glad they were able to be so destructive without injuring the thousands upon thousands that have been dying up until now. Or are you just upset that you can’t claim genocide for this attack?

          • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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            18 months ago

            There’s a big difference between dropping bombs and small pagers exploding.

            Israel is doing both across Southern Lebanon. The pager attack was just the first salvo.