IDF: Whoops, tee hee.

  • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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    318 months ago

    No? This is implying that Israel has had the technology to precisely target people for months but chooses to destroy a whole region instead went it came to Palestine.

    • KillingTimeItself
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      28 months ago

      to be clear, you can’t directly target an individual, you can maybe potentially target a single individual.

      This is also not to mention the cost and accessibility of doing something like this at scale. It’s theorized they either got into the factories, or somehow got through the shipment and intercepted it to do this operation.

      It’s possible they acted as a middleman but that would be really really hard to do at scale like this.

      And even if they did this in palestine, it would only work once.

      • @CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world
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        You don’t need to speculate or theorize; they say exactly how they did it. I cut to the exact part of the video where it is succinctly explained.

        You’ll also notice that, according to Ben/according to Israel/according to Hezbollah… they advertised that they were going to stop using phones & switch to pagers. In July. So people going on about “they could have done this all along” are wrong. It’s been since sometime in July. This July. Which makes this a very fast & even more effective military operation.

        Yes, the shell company was set up 1.5 years ago. Date of sale, idk. But common sense: you need to sell your enemy the goods…and you need to know with relative certainty that the hardware is actively in use. So: since July.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          28 months ago

          oh good, ben shaprio, well known political hack. So basically TL;DR is that israel setup a shell company, selling tampered pagers and radios to hezbollah?

          Seems about right.

      • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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        28 months ago

        The cost? You mean these bombs are more expensive that the weapons used to level Gaza? The ones they only get because other countries sell them?

        • KillingTimeItself
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          18 months ago

          i would assume on a unit level cost, these pagers are probably cheaper, as evidenced by recent Ukrainian advances, however the cost of actually getting these units in the hands of the people that need them is going to slowly approach infinity depending on how aggressively you wish to do it.

          Also, other countries are allowed to sell military equipment, there’s nothing innately illegal with that. Although the people of those countries may not like it, they do generally have the rights to protest it however.

          • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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            18 months ago

            We know people in Palestine have still have access to phones and Internet. I’m sure if Israel wanted, they could sneak new phones in the region. They literally control the whole of Palestine.

            • KillingTimeItself
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              18 months ago

              i mean sure, but making phones explode is a much harder task than making pagers explode, unless Palestinians use almost exclusively flip phones. Which i assume they dont.

              there’s just not very much room inside a modern phone, neither is there a good way to control the actual explodey bit. Unless you stuffed an entirely separate mechanism inside of it. To my knowledge phones don’t exactly ship with GPIO pins on them. I guess you could probably jank it like ukraine is doing, but idk how well that would work.

    • capital
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      -48 months ago

      Your comment implies they had a method like this one to attack Hamas. Source?

      • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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        78 months ago

        I mean they have the method and the will to use it, that’s all I’m saying. Why couldn’t they intercept the phones and other devices used by Hamas leaders the same way?

        • capital
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          I mean they have the method and the will to use it, that’s all I’m saying.

          The method may not have been applicable for some reason. Shooting people in the head is a method but unless they line up for you away from everyone who’s not Hamas, that’s not a realistic method to employ.

          • @BigMacHole@lemm.ee
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            -38 months ago

            Agreed! It’s SAFER to just Bomb Orphanages and Schools to ENSURE those Hamas Kids die instead of using your Military Knowledge you Obviously have to find a Way to target ONLY Hamas!