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Cake day: March 2nd, 2024

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  • I do admit it was kinda spiky. To defend that I wanna point out how obviously and loud the instagram aspect of veganism is taking over over the past 15 years (at least for the veganism I could observe during that time).

    And I don’t know if I understand you right, but it’s exactly the “lifestyle” encoded into diet-questions, that differs between veganism and other progressive movements. Logically this is where it’s ideology (ideology in a descriptive, non-normative sense) is taking place, developing, and bringing about cultural practices including the implicit creation of “meaning”.

    In other words, a salad recipe with alsmost no practical value, presented as another revoltion in your personal lifestyle (feat. instagrammable images), can tell you a lot about how meaning is created.

    This is what I thought is a obvious challenge for political veganism and just became visible so blatantly in the thing I commented on.


  • First of all disclaimer, since this is seemingly identity-relevant: I think eating vegan is a good thing.

    Ok come on, the article I didn’t link? Its what the thing i commented on was reporting on and linking on, the core of it.

    Pointing out the orchastration of “lifestyle innovation”, in this case ridiculous “recipes”, is critique of one aspect of vegan culture.

    “Shit-stirring” and “tankie”… maybe you are jumping to conclusions because you feel attacked.

    But guess what, criticizing the mislead, weird, zeitgeist influenced and alienating aspects of contemporary veganism and its development is part of the necessary self-reflection of any progressive movement. Thats why I call it censorship.

    And if this isn’t obvious to you, please note: you can very well, and definetly should criticize problematic aspects of a movement you like, want to support and are part of!

    “Vegan” as a cultural, political identity is problematic, exactly because it can (!) easily miss out on contextualizing itself in the political. Neo-liberal self optimozation (also of the ethic kind) is an outstanding example. Constructing a vague idea of innovation and progress through the next even shinier bs recipe combined with more instagram image cultivation just shouldn’t to be confused with political progress.

    Staving of that kind of critique (ceitique doesn’t say “you are a bad person” but “this seems worth thinking about”) kinda signifies that a movement is turning in on itself, focusing on protecting the idea of doing good and loosing focus on questioning it’s own methods and development.

    And, regarding the jump to identity games as in “tankie”: yup I’m a marixst in a broader sense, but in that spectrum I almost couldn’t be farther away from tankies. If you need proof, look into my comment history.







  • No great wisdom either, but my main thought about this is that games are designed to keep your dopamine coming (maybe overly nature scientific way of saying: they are exciting, rewarding).

    Other activities can do that to, but some are rewarding in a more subtle way or more on a long term. Like, not “ringring yOu fOuNd DIAMOND!!”. So in comparison with games they might not trigger your motivation (dopamin?) as quickly.

    On the other hand they are probably better at making you feel more general connectedness, belonging, sense, emotional diversity, etc.

    So my advice (wich I struggle alot to follow myself) is: Avoid or limit the other dopamine traps like random scrolling and give yourself and the not-designed- for-dopamine-optimization-world some time, some patient goodwill. This might make that good ol’ world shine bright enough to not get bored all the time.