Casting this as some kind of fundamental problem with Linux? Did I say that? I literally said nothing of the sort. Stop putting words in my mouth. I agree with what you said about Muta. Like I keep saying, I don’t usually watch his content, I’m just open minded enough to give any video a chance if it’s a relevant topic, and this one happened to spark some thought for me. You’re literally exemplifying the “gatekeeper” behavior I’m talking about. I don’t think it’s as widespread as some people make it out to be, but when your response to a post that is EXPLICITLY asking to discuss a very common complaint about Linux is to just shift the focus onto the content creator because you don’t like him, you’re not making it easy for new users to feel like this is a community they want to engage with.

Mutahar’s video is not the crux of what I’m discussing AT ALL. It just so happens that seeing the video reminded me of these criticism which I already had. I could have posted this whole thread without the video and had a nearly identical conversation. The difference is that we wouldn’t have to waste time talking about Muta, when the conversation is about Linux. Which is not a perfect OS. Nor is Windows, or ANY OS. Talking about this stuff is how we try to figure out how to improve them.

It’s not even about which OS is easier to troubleshoot. The case I’m making is that there is progress that is needed to be made on Linux’s part to help people understand it as easily as they do on Windows. Let’s not even pretend that it’s easier to troubleshoot Linux than it is to troubleshoot Windows (I know you’re not specifically saying this but comparing which is easier is something a new user absolutely takes into account). It definitely would be easier if you’ve used Linux for longer, obviously. But for those who haven’t ever tried it, but want to, then do so, have problems and begin troubleshooting, it can feel like a labyrinth and be extremely overwhelming. I’m only trying to convey that despite the progress Linux has made over the years, it is still out of the reach of many people. As I keep saying, people SHOULD take the time to learn. It would be great and beneficial, but a lot people just can’t invest the time.

Yeah I mostly agree. It’s been made pretty clear by not only this post but just watching Mutahar’s content in the past that he likes to sound more educated than he is. On many topics, not just Linux and computing. This video just happened to spark some thought for me and I felt like putting it into words. I just didn’t think about people’s perception of the actual content creator because I feel like this could have been a conversation even without referencing the video at all.

Don’t know if you’re talking to me or Mutahar, but this is exactly what people can’t stand about some Linux users. It’s why the stereotype of “gatekeeper” Linux users exists. Because instead of engaging with the discussion in any way, you got triggered and decided to yell insults over the internet. That’s pretty fucking sad.

And to be clear, I don’t like Mutahar much either. He’s very biased and I usually don’t watch his stuff. I was bored and clicked on this video. I also try to make a habit of watching creators I have an aversion to, because I want to avoid confirmation bias. Not trying to present as holier than thou, just being honest.