• mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.world
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    Like a lot of fascism, it makes perfect sense if you understand the code words. “Inserting politics” or “getting political” means expressing a disallowed opinion that should be silenced. You’ll never hear this kind of language used about the approved opinions, only the to-be-silenced ones.

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      Exactly this.

      Kneeling for the anthem is inserting politics into sports, playing the anthem before the game? Not at all inserting politics into sports.

      Pride night? Not allowed. First responder (read: cop) Night? Totally cool.

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        If first responder night was just fire department and EMT itd be infinitely better, fun fact a bar in my city banned that type of event since the fire chief nearly got into a fight with the police chief.

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        “I stand for the flag. I kneel for the cross.” –A phrase uttered only by people who have never once knelt in front of a cross, ever.

        I’ve also noticed a direct correlation between people who wave around “Blue Lives Matter” flags and people who think police officers should essentially be paid poverty level wages. They’re often the same group of people. And yes, the irony is completely lost on them.

        Now I have to tell a story. And this actually happened. Eons ago, I got a wild hair and decided to run for my local city council. At that time, the city was pushing a small tax increase to fund raises for the police and fire departments, where the average salary was like $9/hr for a patrolman. It was not a great wage even then. I literally had people with “thin blue line” bumper stickers yelling at me because “I make $9 an hour. Why should they be paid better than me?” I quickly learned that there is a large – or larger than I would have expected – percentage of the population that supports the “police” as a concept as long as it means they get to feel morally superior. When it comes to actually supporting the people who are the police, they don’t give two shits.

        It’s possible to think that police, firefighters, and other public servants in hazardous occupations should be compensated well AND be held to high moral and ethical standards. Mind blowing. I know.

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      2 years ago

      That’s pretty well how it is basically any time someone’s trying to make another shut up. It doesn’t even need to be politics.

  • ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world
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    It’s the rage against the machine all over again. Shows how truly dumb people are. Like do they even listen to the lyrics?

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            It’s the flat earth movement all over again. The flat earth thing started as a joke on 4chan. Like “wouldn’t it all be funny if we took something blatantly false and pretended to believe in it?” Then the idiots caught a whiff of it, mistook it for people being serious, then joined in unironically. At that point, 4chan took a step back and laughed, because what else can you do at that point? The idiocy fission reaction was self-sustaining at that point, so 4chan just let go of the reins and watched to see where it would go.

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              It dates back way further than 4chan, I want to say 70s maybe. But yeah this happens every couple of decades with flat earthers, hell I think there was a flat earth group back in the 1800s which was basically a running joke amongst naturalists. Then the dumbfucks came out of the woodwork.

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        Nah, I’ve got a family member who voted for trump and loves RatM. They honestly think the lyrics support conservative ideals, and advocate for violence against people who would change the country from the “good ol’ days.”

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        I hope you don’t mind Unix systems, cuz you should avoid Windows after a statement like that.

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    It’s like they interpret music as just a noise that sounds appealing with no meaning.

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      Hence former House Speaker and Ayn Rand-lover Paul Ryan’s favorite band being Rage Against The Machine

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        This is also why the Snyder Superman movies are bad.

        Superman is an illegal alien who learned the value of kindness and hard work from his adopted parents, uses his powers to help people because it’s the right thing to do, and spends the time that he’s not being Superman to do investigative journalism that exposes corruption.

        Snyder is an objectivist who understands precisely 0% of any of that, and that’s why his Superman movies completely fail to be about anything.

    • LifeOfChance@lemmy.world
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      I dont see that as an issue so long as you aren’t gonna attempt shaming them. I have songs I just listen to but couldn’t tell you a single lyric or who it is.

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        Yea that’s all fine but when they get surprised that Green Day has a little something more to say after preforming American idiot it’s a bit funny.

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    He’s the one who likes

    All our pretty songs and he

    Likes to sing along and he

    Likes to shoot his gun but he

    Don’t know what it means

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      It’s funny - I agree with Green Day in most ways politically, but stopped listening after American Idiot because so much of their music was blatantly political. That’s what they were going for, it is CLEAR and OBVIOUS to anyone listening to their music, where they stand. I am all for it, I would just rather be escaping the world’s issues while listening to music :)

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          I listen to punk because of the politics lol. Rage against the machine, green day, the offspring, etc. Love them all

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        I quit listening to Green Day because it was impossible to escape When September Ends. Couldn’t go out in public without hearing it somewhere.

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        It’s funny to me…I didn’t say they were bad, I didn’t say I didn’t like them, I didn’t say anything except for that they clearly took their music in a more in your face, political direction. That’s fine, I support them making that choice. I get that punk is inherently political, and that most music has hints of it. When I started listening, when 1039 came out - I was too young to understand what the music was about. Then came kerplunk and dookie. Dookie has many songs that are just about boredom, wasting time, or girls. Same thing for Insomniac and Nimrod. You cannot argue that EVERY song on those albums was political, it’s just not true. They became a pop-punk alternative band. That’s great, they still make great music, I just choose other styles and genres. Downvotes aren’t hurting me, but it seems excessive for sharing my thoughts.

        For the record, I was a ride or die fan in the 90’s. 5 shows, one of them I waited by the outdoor stage for 3 hours to get a good spot. I had my art featured on the earliest version of their website, back in the AOL days. I still love the music I grew up with. Bands style, peoples preferences change…I just don’t want to think about the broken world when I listen to music anymore.

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    You don’t get to get away from it. MAGA politics has made life a living hell for so many people that can’t get away from it, and the only thing anyone can do is confront you with it every waking moment of yours.

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    Maybe conservatives just take a sharpie and put a comma on the album cover so it says “American, Idiot” as in they are yelling at someone that they are American and that they should have known by their ignorant angry voice.

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    American Idiot was already political and already critical of the Republicans. I guess all these American idiots didn’t know the lyrics before?

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      "He’s the one

      who likes all our pretty songs

      and he likes to sing along

      and he likes to shoot his gun

      but he knows not what it means"

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        reminds me of the line in Hey Ya! by OutKast:

        “y’all don’t wanna hear me, you just wanna dance”

  • 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘰@lemmy.world
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    Anyone who wants to censor culture is a fascist at their core. In a liberal democracy you can say anything but you’re not immune from the consequences.

    That being said these users look fake AF and we should stop pretending Twitter/x/whatever is anything but a dead forum

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      Unfortunately they’re not only NOT fake, but irl they’re just as disgruntled and morally ugly as their online persona. Me and a friend finally got ourselves blocked by one common mutual who was behaving like that even in public and we couldn’t help but either A) block his stupid “centrist” hypocrite ass and never go out with him again or B) mock him, call him out and make fun of him for every unhinged thing he would say. We chose B and we had some good laughs upon his stupidity

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      Right, exactly that’s the reason everyone should be allowed to say the nword.

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    Guy who shocked by green day probably never existed back in 2004 or just want a piece of cake for attention. Green Day always has been political in some of their song release since Warning(?), even on The Network side project am I supposed to think The Network is Green Day? Am no American and enjoyed Green Day from Dookie to Revolution Radio (not really listened to them since FOaMF release).

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        Agreed. No matter which era you like whether 90s Green Day or Post-American Idiot album, Green Day still great band and great live performer, their live performance are treat especially when they were playing faster live. You can see them on youtubes, my favorite is live version of Paper Lantern (specifically Chicago 1994)

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    Making fun of the people who didn’t like the political statement is fine, and there were plenty of high profile people to dunk on for that, but this is literally some rando this person searched up, the original tweet had basically no interactions. This could even be satire for all we know.

    Effectively, if not possibly literally, nobody really said this.

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      The whole “the right is up in arms” is bullshit. I’m sure there are idiots who say some stupid things, but I have conservative relatives. I get (unwillingly) exposed to war room more than I care to say. The only place I’ve heard about it is in posts like this.

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    Incredible that they can just keep coming up with shit like this day after day, indefinitely. Truly astonishing

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      Every other argument they have is instantly demolished because of how stupid they are so they just reach into the barrel to scrape out more shit. But the problem is that they’re not just scraping the bottom, they’ve gone and dug a hole halfway to China.