• @Num10ck@lemmy.world
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    611 year ago

    the secret is they should be using wax instead of glues, but that requires a warm squeeze and they are trying to save a thousandth of a penny and hope nobody notices. i email the CEOs about it.

  • Deceptichum
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    331 year ago

    The fucking texture of that cottony shit left behind, like nails on a chalkboard trying to rip it all off.

  • @ornery_chemist@mander.xyz
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    231 year ago

    You may be interested to know that these kinds of paper adhesives are usually intentionally designed so that the substrate (paper) tears before the adhesive does. This is meant to ensure robust packing and to give proof that the package has not been tampered with. Couple this with ever thinner and shittier substrates, and, well…

    • fiat_luxOP
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      211 year ago

      Ugh. I believe them already. It’s sealed for my protection. I get it. It says so nearly 100 times. I don’t check the seals for syringe marks first either, or the factory’s latest cleanroom maintenance logs. Just let me in, I already paid the extortionate entry fee.

      Seriously though, I wouldn’t mind so much if they always were just paper I could poke a finger through at the end. Sometimes there’s another super stretchy thick plastic layer under that which resists everything but blades. I don’t want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I’m getting to the point where I’ve thought about it.

      • Captain Janeway
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        111 year ago

        I know what you mean. I wish more stuff could just be packed in glass jars with the little popping seal. If it’s popped, it has been opened. I don’t know if everything can handle the pressure difference… But it seems ideal. Plus then the glass jars and aluminum lids can be recycled.

      • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙
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        1 year ago

        I don’t want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I’m getting to the point where I’ve thought about

        Have you considered just not eating peanut butter in the bathroom?

        Or open it in the kitchen first.

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          This was a supplement I was opening on my way to the bathroom, where I keep my medication. Long covid memories makes ms forget everything to open first. Long covid memory problems also make me fail to double check my posts every time for bad autocorrect.

  • NegativeLookBehind
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    How about the ones that get fused to the opening like someone was welding fucking steel girders together on the Golden Gate Bridge?

    • @maniajack@lemmy.world
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      191 year ago

      And they have no pull off tab, and your finger nails are just a tiny bit too long and you bend one the wrong way 🤕

      • Doubletwist
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        81 year ago

        Or the pull off tab rips right off, leaving the seal itself perfectly intact.

    • fiat_luxOP
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      101 year ago

      The irony of that being true for my ADHD medication bottle is not at all lost on me. It’s like a tiny extra “fuck you”.

      • NegativeLookBehind
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        41 year ago

        “Oh I’m sorry did you need some medication?”

        Industrial SMAW welder whirring in background

      • Drusas
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        41 year ago

        Ugh, this is my migraine medication. I have to open the little blister packs in advance because they’re so hard to open that I often just can’t do it if I have a migraine…when I need the medication.

  • Lemminary
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    131 year ago

    But that costs money and how are we gonna make even more money if we reinvest any of the earnings? 😩

    • fiat_luxOP
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      11 year ago

      I would be fine with mediocre or even shitty adhesive properties here. It’s protected and pressure is maintained using a solid HDPE capped jar with perforations, which is already a tamper-evident seal. I don’t need a padlock on it either. Or even a disability-proof cap (the manufacturers prefer the name “child-proof” though). And there are multiple adhesives which don’t impart odor or flavor. Even superglue wouldn’t do it, given you need less than a tiny smear. What an odd false dichotomy you have given me.

      Behold, could this be the best of both worlds? (image description: glass bottle with half-peeled seal. The separation is clean and easy and lacks flavor.)

  • @taiyang@lemmy.world
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    111 year ago

    Literally me today with a small soap container, but it was a trifecta: the lid separated from a plastic seal under it as with the picture, with the tiniest of rim you can barely get with your fingernails to pry it off to begin with, and a seal so strong you can’t just puncture it with you fingers.

    As with another suggestion I just used thermite.

  • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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    101 year ago

    They need to talk to the people who make flour bags. Those paper bags glued shut with the strongest glue known to man, so that they are impossible to open without tearing a big hole in the bag, rendering it impossible to store the flour in.

          • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            No, it’s rolled up in a way that prevents it being opened neatly. I do use scissors on the Red Hot Blues tortilla chips, those have a similar problem but the shape of the bag allows it to be cut cleanly.

    • @M137@lemm.ee
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      01 year ago

      Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it’s better. You can be sure no one stuck their dick in it, smeared a booger, or put anything harmful or anything else on or in it. Stuff also keeps longer, as long as you don’t break the seal most stuff stays good for a long time.

      • fiat_luxOP
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        11 year ago

        Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it’s better.

        Sure, if you are not experiencing the symptoms of medical conditions. Especially the conditions that led you to be opening the bottle in the first place, that’s when it’s especially insulting on top of the additional pain/fatigue the situation generates.

        It’s not even that I don’t like seals. I love the caps and covers on the tins and bottles and jars of food in my kitchen. I even love recyclable ziplock bags, and there are flimsy takeaway containers out there that are literally watertight. I just don’t like seals that are poorly made. There are products with usable seals out there, I know this first-hand. I’ve used them. I use them everyday.

        Even then, not everything we consume has to be Fort Knox just because someone tainted a product intentionally or accidentally in the past. There are product recalls for various problems everyday and yet I’ve avoided getting ill from my groceries my entire life. I’m fine with buying my bread in a paper bag, I don’t need them to start using hermetically sealed boxes with padlocks.

        And honestly, there are so many points in the production lines of most things where someone has the opportunity to stick their dick in something, that I just can’t dedicate the energy to entertaining that possibility on a daily basis. I also can no more verify that the last burger I ate was made by someone who washed their hands, any more than I can verify that the tomatoes I’m buying to make ketchup for homemade burgers weren’t grown using human faeces and picked by slaves. And I say this as someone who has some immunity issues: There are just too many vectors for various kinds of contamination than you can imagine, let alone reasonably safeguard against - you have to pick and choose to battle the most likely to occur or kill you. I do not battle the possibility of penis in my products. I just don’t have that kind of time.

        We have the technology. This situation literally doesn’t need to exist for anyone ever. And yet it’s clearly common as fuck.

  • Eager Eagle
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    61 year ago

    am I looking at glue that didn’t come off, or something that spoiled because the glue didn’t hold?

    • fiat_luxOP
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      The bond between the seal and the jar is stronger than the bond between the layers of the seal. So peeling it separates the layers and leaves behind the thin papery final seal layers instead of removing the whole seal.

      Admittedly this is better than the seal on one of my medications. It removes in one pull… if you can find and pull the tiniest sliver of edge of the seal, because they leave zero overhang.

    • @Sylver@lemmy.world
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      71 year ago

      The glue around the rim of the cup is too sticky, so it left behind a layer of cottony paper when the label was ripped off

      • @money_loo@lemmy.world
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        Also, this usually only happens when people are in a hurry and pull from the top instead of the bottom where it’s curled around.

        Never mind, my fat ass thought it was a weird angle on a can of Pringles or something food related.

        • fiat_luxOP
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          61 year ago

          You can just see the two shredded sections on the edge where I was deliberately and carefully trying to include all layers and they just tore off instead. I don’t know if this is a technique thing, but if it is, I would love to know what I am doing wrong, because it happens to me all the damn time.

          • gullible
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            81 year ago

            It’s not you, it’s the design. The only means of getting a clean top that I’ve found is to split the seal at the middle with a knife and rip outward.

            • fiat_luxOP
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              31 year ago

              Lol, no worries. Food ones always seem to work better too, but as soon as it’s medications or supplements, they use the shitty ones or the over-secure ones. We should get the peanut butter and Pringle’s manufacturers in the room with the pharmaceutical industry and make them talk.

              • @Pazuzu@midwest.social
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                21 year ago

                the worst are the pills in blister packages where the foil is stronger than the pill itself, so you just end up crushing the pill inside. like I get blister packages are supposed to make it harder to get a ton of pills out at once, but if it forces me to grab scissors anyways that kinda defeats the purpose

                • fiat_luxOP
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                  21 year ago

                  Huh, I’ve never experienced that. And I take a lot of pills. They might have really bad binders or compression at the factory where they’re making yours? But that does sound very irritating, I’m annoyed enough when I cut pills in half and it breaks into not-halves.

                  I have, however, cut myself on the foil a few times. And that stuff is sharp. Not sharp enough to get through the shitty seal in my first pic, but enough to really slice fingers if you’re not looking.

  • BarqsHasBite
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    61 year ago

    I haven’t tried to open this way forever. Puncture the top and pull to the outside.