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I saw today new “merch” section below comments. I’m a premium users for a reason, I want 0 ads.
I just canceled my subscription and moved to yattee / invidious for good.
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I don’t agree with the commenters in this thread.
An ad is an ad.
I don’t care if they’re for the youtuber’s own stuff. I don’t care what their cut is from youtube premium, they can take that up with youtube. I don’t want to see any ads of any kind if I’m paying for the content. Especially considering how much premium costs.
Disclaimer; I don’t use youtube premium, I use youtube in browsers that allow adblockers, and on android I use firefox with ublock.
Sponsorblock has been incredible.
That’s a bit of an extreme take on the topic… not wanting ads from the broadcaster is one thing, not wanting to be separately presented with the promotional items of the youtuber himself is something else. I like seeing what the guys I follow are putting out. Maybe a 2nd option in ads content would be appropriate for you but don’t throw everyone in the same bag…
Well, I am fine if I can disable it, however I don’t believe it can be disabled.
I don’t care where the ad is coming from. To me if it’s not related to the video then it’s an ad.
I am OK with self promoting in the video, but taking real estate of my screen to show merch is advertisement.
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I paid for no ads.
An ad is an ad. If YouTube premium’s point is to remove ads then this should be included. Otherwise what’s the point? We should all just go back to using ad blockers.
We should not pay for content twice. Viewing ads is paying for content. Paying for premium is paying for content.
You’re not paying for content by seeing ads for YouTuber’s stores. That’s supplementary income for the YouTuber that doesn’t involve YTs revenues whatsoever.
It’s less ads and more your youtuber’s shop… you pay YouTube premium to get rid of their ads but you don’t pay your content creator… maybe if there was a subscription patreon-like it would be equivalent.
it’s an ad for the shop. i paid for no ads. i didn’t pay for “no ads except those we think you’d like to see”, i paid for no ads.
I understand it is a YouTubers shop but it is still an ad.
YouTube spends some of the money you pay for premium on the content creator, more than just user who watches ads, the only reason I would consider using premium, there will always be a way to block ads without spending money unless it’s moved Serverside and you have to wait the length of instead.
Edit: The content creator can also just add a link in the end card to their patreon or merch store.
For niche content creators that aren’t in the million of subs what they get isn’t even subsistence money… hence their merchs. Those are not ads inserted in the video stream but screen space below the video… easily ignored especially compared to actual ads.
no ads, $10/month
no ads except for the channel shop, $12/month
no ads except for the channel shop and products/companies mentioned in the video, $15/month
no ads except for the channel shop, products/companies mentioned in the video, and products/companies associated with concepts mentioned in the video, $20/month
no ads except for the channel shop, products/companies mentioned in the video, products/companies associated with concepts mentioned in the video, and products/companies we think you might be interested in based on your viewing history, $25/month
ads, $35/month
Most people see it favorably to actually support creators they follow. Not this guy though, fuck the content creators trying to provide you content and try to make a living out of it.
They’re already getting the YouTube premium revenue and I doubt that they didn’t spend at least 10 seconds advertising it in their videos.
Oh, you have a serious source that indicate how youtube premium revenues are shared between the platform, the right holders, and the content creators, including how it is split between what you watch and what you don’t care about?
According to the YouTube content creator ‘The Spiffing Brit’ the revenue he receives per view from YouTube premium is higher than and revenue. So obviously it does help support the creator, though I’m sure YouTube makes more money off of it.
It’s pretty wild how many people in this thread (and in general) don’t see youtubers as a business selling a product.
Its great if you want to buy stuff from your favorite content creators shop, but the shop is there to make money. It makes money for their business. What do we call it when a business goes out of their way to show consumers their products in the hopes that they’ll purchase something? an advertisement. This isn’t something debatable lol, it’s literally the definition of the word.
Its awesome if you wanna support your favorite content creators, it’s totally OK if you don’t personally mind seeing their shop below the video, a simple toggle would let you keep that. But an ad is an ad, and people are right to be frustrated that they’re being shown ads when they specifically paid extra money not to be shown them.
YouTube is also showing products below video listings in the home page. Even before you click on it.
See here:
I pay for YT Premium. This is excessive.
Because youtubers make products with love. /s
%100 agree.
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Merch section comes up with uBO as well.
Right click -> block element
is it only me for who ublock origin does not work anymore? i tried adding filters and updating it
It works for me on Firefox with all other blocking software disabled (YouTube Enhanser and Sponcerblock)
You can enable sponsorblock fine.
It was recommended I disable it by the uBO team. I was getting the warning otherwise.
This all could be solved with a simple toggle for premium users to choose if they want to see these ads or not.
Yeah this might be a good option, but relies on Google Not making it a pain/using dark patterns to do so. . . Which ultimately they’re incentivized to do.
You meant yattee?
Yes
I’m fine with the merch window in the sidebar, although lately they’ve added an overlay on desktop that appears over the video (even in fullscreen) that I think is going to get annoying real quick if they keep it around. If I’m watching a video from a creator, there’s a good chance I’ll be interested in their merch, and having a standard place for creators to show off merch without having to shill it in every video, is a feature worth having IMO. But I don’t want anything overlayed on the video - especially in fullscreen, and if anything it makes me less likely to support the creator by buying merch - even though the overlay is almost certainly something Google added without any opt-in from creators.
There’s an extension called SponsorBlock that automatically skips past that if you want
Sponsorblock only skips the video. This is about the ads on the webpage.
Ah gotcha. My mistake!
Definitely needed.
Why do you expect people to take this seriously? A YouTuber advertising their merch in a place you had to go to to even see is the dumbest anti-youtube complain I have seen.
I am against abusive youtube ads (long unskippable ads, more than 2 ads per video etc) but to me, merch is fine. Merch allows viewers to directly support youtubers since they get the largest percentage of profit from merc sales vs from youtube views. Many of them take the effort to make their merch ads interesting and funny too.
Ooh guess you’ll have to adblocker + premium
That’s a very extreme view, my friend. A lot of Youtubers come up with good products. For example, LevelOneTechs has come up with a pretty good KVM that a lot of mainstream companies haven’t been able to perfect. So I enjoy it when Youtubers advertise their merch.
KVMs feel like they should be better at this point. If I’m paying $500+ so I can just click a button to switch my monitors and inputs between two computers and it only works half the time there is an issue.
The one I would need to get from L1T is $750 and I just can’t justify buying a 3rd KVM when I already got a $400 CKL and a $600 TESmart. I guess I should have just went with the L1T.
Dang bro, how much boot can one person lick?
