Australian national broadcaster ABC has projected three states voted No, effectively defeating the referendum.

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    3 years ago

    There was absolutely no reason to vote no to this.

    Of course there was. Enshrining different rights to different people in the constitution based on their race, is fundamentally objectionable.

    • MJBrune@beehaw.orgdeleted by creator
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      3 years ago

      I feel like you say that without the context of anything. In isolation what you say might be true but within context it’s just fairly clear to see why you’d get a minority group committee of advisers to be more widely heard. “Different rights to different people” is literally how the world works. If you want to pretend that majority bias doesn’t exist then so be it, I can’t change your support for systemic racism.

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        3 years ago

        When you choose to use the expression “absolutely no reason”, it is trivially easy to disprove your claim. My argument is one of them, and it is a valid reason to vote no. Your further arguments are valid reasons to vote “yes”, and their pros and cons may or may not outweigh each other.

        But you are verifiably wrong to claim that there are no reasons to vote no. Opposing race-based legislation in all its forms is a very valid position, and the only non-racist position possible to take in this.

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          3 years ago

          Sorry, I figured you wouldn’t be pedantic. I clearly meant no valid reason that I see to vote no. Racism and support of systemic racism is a reason, you are right. Go get your internet pedantic star.

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            3 years ago

            Grow the fuck up. You are the one arguing for race-based legislation. That makes you the racist. Every human has the right to be equal in the eyes of the law. There simply cannot be an excuse for having tests based on genetics that lead to different rights in a society. That’s just purely despicable in every way.

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              3 years ago

              There is Equality, Equity, and Justice. I highly recommend reading about why you should go for Justice rather than Equality. Also, this law would have nothing based on race or genetics. It was based on what the tribes, which are organization bodies like the Australian government, would put in the committee. It’s fairly racist to assume that indigenous committee representatives have to be of indigenous genetics in this day and age.

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        3 years ago

        They know. The whole “progressives are the real racists” shtick is just a way for them to chew up values and spit them back in peoples faces.

        They’re not actually concerned about genuine racism and routinely tolerate it, if not outright support it.

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        3 years ago

        Everybody should have the same right to be heard. Different people having different rights to be heard, based on their race, is absolutely objectionable. And racist.

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          3 years ago

          You’re looking at a set of unequal scales and saying they should be equal, while refusing to place more weight onto either side…