It’s been a few years since I’ve needed to install a version of Windows on a PC for personal use. I have a license for Windows 10 Pro, but today I found out it is no longer possible to get through the installation without first creating an account with Microsoft.

I don’t want to do this. Does anybody have any way to get around it? The stuff I’ve read online basically ends up being create your account switch to a local account after installation and delete your account. I want a better solution. Would installing a much older version of Windows 10 work? The whole reason I got an msdn license back in the day is so I didn’t have to do this.

Edit: 10/2/2023

I thank you all for giving me advice and ideas. Much I had already tried before posting my question here, and some suggestions and experiences led me to keep at it. Here’s my experience for others who have a similar problem.

I downloaded the ISO from Microsoft - Win10_22H2_English_x64v1. I used Ventoy to launch the installer. The first time I went through, I connected to Wi-Fi. As soon as I did that, it sealed my fate. By this time in the process, it installed the boot partition on my HD and saved this information so every time I tried to restart the installer, it always went through language, keyboard, then “enter email address”. All the suggestions for fake values simply triggered “This email is already used. Please choose another”, and that was it.

I was getting ready to wipe the partition and try again, but decided to turn off Wi-Fi in the BIOS first to see if that worked. It did. This time it tried to convince me to set up the network and failed and I was able to create a local account.

The way this multi-version installer works is annoying. It installed Windows Home edition, so I had to “know” that I could go to settings and enter a key. Once I put in the key, it “upgraded” to Pro edition, and I was done.

Next time I have to do this, I’ll see if Rufus works. It seems that will remove some annoyance. Either way, I will avoid configuring Wi-Fi until after install next time. I gotta say, I am not looking forward to the day when I must upgrade to Windows 11. So far I’ve been able to avoid actually buying a new copy due to my aging MSDN key. By the time I’m forced to “upgrade”, I might have to cough up some cash for something I don’t want, but am forced to own.

It should be illegal.

Anyway, now that I know I can still use my MSDN key to get an updated Win 10, I feel a bit more comfortable with re-imaging my Dell laptop from dual-boot to Linux only, then install Windows as a VM for these times I need to use it. Fortunately, that is increasingly rare.

  • Sha'ul
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    352 years ago

    For 10, unplug ethernet or do not connect to wi-fi and it should all you to continue or allow you to skip creating an MS account.

    On the one system I use for gaming, before I install 10 which I have done a few times, I shutdown computer, physically unplug ethernet cable, then turn on computer and start the installation process, and I’ve created a local account everytime. Do not plug in cable or connect online until Windows has rebooted to the start desktop with Start menu. If you connect during installation it could force you to create online account.

    • Hot Saucerman
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      2 years ago

      This is the answer. No internet defaults to local account in Windows 10.

      In 11 you can do the same but it requires using Powershell about halfway thru.

    • @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      This one got me to track down why it never asked for Wi-Fi after I interrupted and restarted the machine. The moment I entered it, the info was saved on the boot partition. Once it tricked me, there was no obvious way out. I turned off Wi-Fi in the BIOS, and that worked.

      • Sha'ul
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        12 years ago

        Did you run a progran to proactive zero out and wipe the whole drive like Parted Magic and then reboot system to load Windows boot media or did you use the Windows installer to only delete the partitions and install Windows again but not actively wipe the drive first?

        • @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          If I went through the work to wipe the partitions, it would doubtlessly have the same effect as turning off wifi in bios. That would have been my next attempt. It’s more work than disa Ling wifi at the bios level.

  • chi-chan~
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    Copy-pasting my own old answer.

    Choose any of these 3 options:

    A. Shift+F10 (opens cmd) > OOBE\BYPASSNRO

    B. Continue until getting to creating account

    B.1. Account > 123@123.com/test@test.com/a@b.com/1@1.ru/fuckoff@microsoft.com/a@outlook.com/d@d.d/na@na.com

    B.2. Password > *enter any random password*

    C. […] > How would you like to set up this device > Set up for work or school

    With an existing system:

    • CMD > net user /add *

    • chi-chan~
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      22 years ago

      BTW, I heard that you can use any invalid email address, but I never tried it myself.

      • @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
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        Neither of these worked. I know now that was because the installer had installed itself on the boot partition with the Wi-Fi info, so I could not go back and force it to continue without a connection. Plus, all addresses I chose it just told me it’s already used, try another.

  • @Platform27@lemmy.ml
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    82 years ago

    Did you get this sorted? I know the following works on 11, and it wouldn’t surprise me if it worked on 10.

    First unplug the Ethernet cable, and when it asks for WiFi, press “Shift + F10”. In the opened command prompt type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO”. This will make the installer go to the legacy OOBE (Out Of Box Experience). Finish setup, before finally connecting to the internet. Don’t worry you’re not doing anything dangerous. It’s a simple registry edit.

  • @melooone@feddit.de
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    62 years ago

    Have you tried installing it with no internet connection? That’s what I always used to do, to get a local account during installation.

  • @Codilingus@sh.itjust.works
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    42 years ago

    Everyone here should check out Windows X-lite. No accounts required, disabled telemetry, deleted bloatware, options to delete defender and edge before install. You gotta even install .net and c++ redistributables your self. It feels like being on Windows XP again.

  • @SomeBoyo@feddit.de
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    32 years ago

    Not connecting to the internet durring installation will do the trick. (Also try using a debloating script after the installation.)

  • @NamelessGO@sh.itjust.works
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    32 years ago

    Use Rufus to make a local account

    1. Install Rufus
    2. Get a Windows 11 .iso
    3. Get a 8gb USB (you will need to format, so move your files from inside your USB, otherwise it will be lost)
    4. Use rufus, select windows 11 iso, select USB, choose Local account + name

    Optional: disable privacy option ON

  • JackGreenEarth
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    Windows is Microsoft’s operating system, and unlike Android, there are fully featured Linux alternatives for all hardware. Why do you need to use Windows, specifically? - noting that needing to use Windows specific software should not be the reason, as WINE exists. You clearly don’t have a specific affiliation to Microsoft, either, as you don’t want to have an account with them. What’s tying you to Windows?

      • @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        Agreed. This is why I took the time to get comfortable with vscode. Still, in real world business development sometes it takes visual studio, and that is an excellent example.

    • @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
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      There are times when I do need windows. That is why I kept the default install on my laptop and put Linux on dual boot.

      In this case, my son wants to play bedrock Minecraft, and eventually I’m sure he will want to play games that don’t work on Linux.

      For recent examples of why I need to have it around just in case, I’m interviewing for jobs and 90% of them use Teams. It took me a few weeks to get a solution to work on Linux.