What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.
We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.
There are benefits and costs. Cloudflare makes it easy to maintain high uptime as a small site sysadmin at the cost of free DDoS protection isn’t actually free. Cloudflare turns all users of websites that employ it into the products of surveillance capitalism
Honestly, I don’t know how any end user who doesn’t understand IT and wasn’t around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don’t have the information or experience to make the claim.
I’ve been using the intermet since 2003 and have seen no difference except when cloudfare breaks.
Yes, the internet is much bigger than it was in 2003, and it needs more complex protective tools. The fact that you haven’t noticed cloudflare when it is working is a sign that it is, well, working.
And the fact that your favorite sites aren’t down more often is yet another sign. Downtime due to DDOS attacks alone would be so much greater without cloudflare than downtime due to cloudflare currently is. Your perspective is a pure lack of knowledge and an excess of confirmation bias.
It’s the eternal IT conundrum. Something goes wrong: “What are we paying you for?!” Everything goes right: “What are we paying you for?!”
It’s best to ignore the users as much as possible and just keep working.
In before they start hating on aws.
That one makes a bit more sense to hate on.
Have you ever self hosted a website? Was that a modern website, or just a bunch of text? Are you experienced with uptime SLAs on multiple services? Have you ever had to deal with a DDOS attack?
There are lots of things that Cloudflare does that requires experience and knowledge to notice or understand. And it isn’t even the biggest single point of failure when it comes to the Internet. When AWS has an outage for instance there is a huge chunk of the Internet that goes down.
There are problems with the centralization of the Internet. But this happened for a reason, and it has been so long and these services have been so reliable that people don’t even realize what it was like before.
I can answer that for you! No. They have never self hosted a website. In fact, I doubt they have ever connected to a website via any protocol beyond http/https. I’d bet a paycheck on it.
Wait, there are other protocols?
You are very difficult to respect.
Your respect is very difficult to care about.
That’s the thing about not respecting you – I don’t value any of your opinions.
Being so willing to pontificate about something you know so little about, I don’t think any one will value your opinion in this thread. At least, they shouldn’t lol.
I’ve been using the intermet since 2003
Then you should remember this: https://youtu.be/48rz8udZBmQ?si=81BQVmYGYRhpPCsw
Reduced to atoms
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I can be mad at both.
Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.
Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.
I’d claim it’s the other way around until proven otherwise. Configuring the edge is not for everyone
“So you solved the catcha, ok, we don’t care anyway.”
“Solve 5 more because you’re using a vpn.”
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I want to upvote and downvote this post… it’s so controversial
They have a shitty way to be useful.
I would personally go with just downvoting. I can use discord again now so I’m not mad at cloudfare anymore.
O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?
Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?
Using cloudflare is more reliable than using your own stuff which is still an option that nobody chooses anymore because it’s better to choose cloudflare or something similar.
I’m going to go ahead and assume you don’t work with internet security in any way, have no experience in web development, and have never attempted to provide web application services to more people than you can count on your fingers, but if you had, cloudflare is mana from heaven.
This persons main connection to the internet is hentai.
Just… save your braincells.
So no, then.
While that can indeed be considered an issue, the idea that this somehow makes the internet objectively worse is debatable.
there is no debate i am always correct :)
That is an objectively untrue statement.
you are an objectively untrue statement
Oh no, centralising DNS and CDN traffic which are critical for the web and the internet into a single company is a bad idea?! Who knew!?!
just don’t use cloudflare if you dont like it and its not a single point, like they have tons of servers all over the planet
I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It’s a conspiracy.
don’t listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.
203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I’ve ever seen
Wait… so why is it 69/23 for me?
Federation is its own magical fuckup. Look at my comments for a recent example.
Vote federation can be weird
I feel like I’m making history. A real end user vs tech people conundrum.
A “people who know what cloudflare acutally does” vs “people who found the meme funny” conundrum.
One more head of Hydra. Espionage System built by the big techs
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Cuckflare: host loves it, everyone else hates it
Hey, I know it’s been two years, but remember how embarrassing this was!
