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The bloat is starting to annoy me. Who asked for stories? How do I get rid of the annoying prompt at the top of the app?
Its basic-ness was one of the original reasons I liked it.
They add loads of bullshit but they still won’t add the option to disable read-receipts.
Signal has Stories too, tbh. All apps are beginning to integrate them. Still, they suck.
The worst thing about Telegram was and still is that End to End encryption is a special add on feature and not the default. Group chats aren’t secure either. The only reason why Telegram is used as more secure for illegal activities is that it does not cooperate with law enforcement well and has its HQ in Dubai. That does not prevent any hacks or leaks tho.Signal has Stories too
not sure about Telegram but you can very easily disable Stories on Signal
I quite like them though as, to my knowledge, it’s the only form of private social media in existence at this point
you can very easily disable Stories on Signal
Which is yet another point for Signal overall :)
Sounds like it’s time for me to start investigating a move to a different cross-platform chat app. The enshitification continues.
These “super-app” fantasies always ignore the fact that WeChat is ubiquitous in China because the Chinese government practically requires everyone to have it. How exactly is that supposed to be replicated in a non-authoritarian society?
You are not wrong, but I feel that the way that so many users have stayed active on Twitter despite all the controversies under Musk proves that a non-authoritarian audience can potentially sleepwalk itself into a super-app with a mixture of user complacency, shortsightedness, and unwillingness to deal with even a bit of inconvenience to support a competitor.
It’s a really small chance, but I think that it is there.Good point. Sleepwalking into authoritarianism doesn’t seem difficult these days.
I use Telegram for the random chatter but it’s getting bloated ever since they added premium features. I understand they have to make money, but some features like stories can’t be disabled at all, and they’re selling group names with crypto. Matrix is looking a lot better moving forward.
Matrix is looking a lot better moving forward.
Especially that their clients are becoming usable even without limiting yourself in how many rooms have you joined.
but some features like stories can’t be disabled at all,
That’s worrying. Hopefully the FOSS fork will add a toggle for it, or a new fork will appear
One marketing executive’s “super” is another man’s “crammed full of crufty garbage that nobody wants.”
I use and love Telegram. I use almost all of its features. All of its clients are open source. It has an incredible API for writing bots (which I also do). Their desktop Linux app is native! When I’m traveling I use Stories to share the experience with friends and family. I love the new topics to separate group discussions. It’s the one app I’ve been able to onboard absolutely everyone to. I was never able to do the same when I tried to with Matrix and you only get so many chances before people stop moving.
What is crufty garbage to you?
Stories. Why they are in a messenger? Especially in such a pesky way.
They’re pesky? It’s the only messenger that has them but has them tucked away completely unintrusively. I‘m not a fan of stories but in Telegram I‘ve barely noticed them…
Lmao meanwhile X…
Heeeeere we go, get ready to buy your Verification Label for $2/month or some whit
As long as I can use Telegram with open source third party apps I give a shit about their bullshit.
What 3rd party app would you recommend to use telegram? I’m getting really annoyed by the stories thing at the top.
I’m a nekogram user but also heard a lot of good things about forkgram
Thanks for the heads up! Already installed Nekogram and uninstalled the default app. No stories bs anymore.
Life’s good again! 🤓
do they remove stories and other bloat?
To be honest, I didn’t know about this nonsense before that post. So no, atleast Nekogram focuses on being a messenger.
I’m using TelegramFOSS right off F-droid and until I read this thread I didn’t even know there was a stories feature
i’ve never understood why people like telegram, it’s not some bastion of virtues, it’s just a shit app like any other that realized that there’s a market for the appearance of privacy.
It’s a good chat app overall. You just have to treat it like sms and assume there’s no real privacy.
Also, they’re very generous with file transfer size. It makes shifting things between people so much easier.
In other words, it’s the features rather than the supposed privacy. If I want privacy, there’s way better options, same for security. But those options suck with some of the more useful things at times.
Mind you, if they keep going with this shit, it’ll be so bloated that it’ll cease to be a good pick for the stuff I use it for, but there are actually plenty of users that are hyped about the shit whatsapp is doing, and the same goes for telegram.
It treats desktop clients as first-class citizens. That’s a huge, huge advantage over Whatsapp, for me.
WhatsApp desktop isn’t so bad nowadays, ever since they made it so you can use it without running through your phone. But I agree that Telegram’s desktop client is much better.
My colleague likes it and use it all the time. He doesn’t really care about privacy and he often brings up cool features telegram has, like simple photo/video editor, shrink tool for media, newsfeed, etc. Which all seems quite polished and very usable. If only it wasn’t such a mess in its core.
