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Hell yes, fuck fandom they’ve ruined so many of the best wikis
If you have to access wikis from fandom, you can use breezewiki
ooh, they even have an extension to automatically redirect as well, very nice
A big win for the Minecraft community. The wiki experience had gone seriously downhill after Fandom took over.
Yes!!! Everyone should abandon that ad-riddled shithole
Surprised anyone can use the internet without uBlock Origin tbh
I just use a different adblock ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah still, the point is how tf do people tolerate the Internet with all the ads.
You should really use ublock
Why? Mine works just fine, and diversity is strength against countermeasures.
I only just switched over to firefox + UBO on my phone, and it’s so much better. I had just assumed that the beautiful ad-free experience I get on my PC wasn’t available on phone, but by jove it is.
I used a browser on someone else’s computer recently and was shocked at all the advertisements on sites I frequent. It really is a game-changer.
uBlock won’t save you in steam overlay browser.
For that there’s other ways buy honestly I almost never use it
Hell yeah, fandom needs to be abandoned its an ad riddled shithole
The Minecraft wiki used to be it’s own thing before moving to Fandom didn’t it? Either way, very happy about this
Yes, it was great back then. I really enjoyed using it until they switched over to Fandom. So glad they got rid of it again.
Yeah, they were previously hosted by Curse until Fandom bought out all the Curse wikis and transferred them to their ad-ridden pile of shit
They should have gone the terraria way of handling a wiki before. Terraria has a functional wiki because it’s its own thing. I am not even sure the fandom websites is meant to be read given the amount of ads that litterally cover the whole page.
The Terraria wiki is hosted on wiki.gg, which the Minecraft wiki editors strongly considered (reading through the discussion, it seemed like a strong second choice behind Weird Gloop/RuneScape wiki). But wiki.gg really has a lot of the same problems as fandom, just to a lesser degree. Still has a fair amount of ads, still has wiki.gg branding on the website, and most importantly in the discussions I read, they wouldn’t be able to use a domain the Minecraft wiki owns (as in it wold have been at minecraft.wiki.gg rather than minecraft.wiki). The big problem with not having their own domain is that if things ever go south with wiki.gg (for example if they get bought by Fandom), they would be starting from scratch as far as SEO/discoverability goes, same as they are now.
Weird Gloop (the host for the RuneScape wikis) offered fewer ads, a comparable hosting infrastructure, and the ability to use their own domain, as well as a lot of experience forking from fandom successfully, which sounds like it was really valuable to them.
Fandom is an ad-ridden shithole
I have been using it a lot lately, I did not know about that thanks to Firefox + Ublock
Yeah as another Firefox + Ublock Origin user, I came in here to say I’ve noticed a lot of game wikis announcing they’re migrating off of Fandom, and I’m curious as to why. I’m OoTL.
Is it that, or just the reverse?
Yeah, it’s a shit-ridden ad hole.
Good.
It’s reached the point (or had a couple of years ago, which was the last time I went to a wiki hosted there) that it’s virtually impossible to even read an entry, since there are so many ads that the actual text of the article spends more time off the screen than on it.
IMO the worst part is the ads that auto-scroll you to the top of the page after you’ve spent two minutes reading
That’s not unique to fandom. Many websites do that shit. Reader mode all the way, i say
It’s embarrassing that huge and ongoing successful games can’t shell out to host official wikis, but instead leave it to the community to either pay out or pocket (not happening) or pick whichever crappy provider they can find willing to host it for ads.
A good wiki needs to have mosly text, a modest amount of pictures, no self-hosted video, and low computing needs. While an unpleasant expense for a private individual, it doesn’t cost a company much to host.
While I agree that it’s rather sad for developer not hosting their Wiki, I really never had any problem with the old hoster of the Minecraft Wiki. I certainly didn’t perceive it as a “crappy provider”. It did exactly what it needed to and there weren’t any intrusive adds or at least not to my attention. But maybe I’m just really good at ignoring adds myself.
Edit: Or mabye my add blocker did help, hard to tell since I haven’t seen the internet without it since years now.
Yeah Bulbapedia is fan-run and does exactly what it needs imo.
Ya, not all are the level of Fandom. The old one for Minecraft was somewhat tolerable without an ad-blocker. I don’t really feel it is fair to blame the providers either - even Fandom. They are stepping up to offer something nobody else feels like paying for.
While fandom sucks (although I think it used to be fine before the redesign many years ago) and game companies/publishers are cheap, I still think 3rd party wikis is going to better, even shitty ones like fandom, because guess what?
Just like every other ‘live service’ (or even just old games!?! if you’re Ubisoft) everything will be fine and dandy until one day some suit decides to shut down the wiki to cut down on costs and all that information and community work gets flushed down the toilet.
With that said, instead of them making some wiki website, it’s nice when games lets you look up information in the game itself, without having to open the web browser and going to some wiki.
Arenanet provides a Wiki for Guild Wars 1 and 2. They are both amazing and the second one even integrates into GW2. When GW1 came out it started as a community service but Arenanet took it in officially.
Honestly, without the wiki and the massive work by the community I’d be very lost in GW2.
A good wiki needs to have mosly text, a modest amount of pictures, no self-hosted video, and low computing needs.
Huh. That sounds kind of like Lemmy, wonder if someone will try to modify the software to support a wiki.
Even Reddit has a built-in wiki system. Why not Lemmy too?
Going to a site with a terrible autoplay pseudo-podcast that refreshes on every new page is basically the MySpace experience. It’s incredibly difficult, by the way, for small projects to have their wikis deleted and wiki site staff are less than helpful. Always nice for a defunct wiki to rise to the top of search results when the project website hosts quite a bit more identically formatted information but without random penis based articles. I love that.
Can you tell me more about these penis based articles?
Penis magic became quite varied and popular in the forgotten realms for a time.
This is great news. The old site really went to shit the last few years, especially on mobile, with ads using >50% of the screen.
The response regarding the move from the people I know who manage the Wiki has been positive. Happy to hear that.
All Discord groups which manage Minecraft servers should announce this change. I manage a small one myself and did it just a day back.
Mashallah
Fandom has since become one of my least favorite websites, simply because of the ads, and the “Honest Trailers” videos that automatically show up (and follow you) regardless of the topic of the page you’re on, not to mention that their mobile site is pure garbage. It’s just pure garbage, alright.
And I’m a person who browses Logopedia regularly, which is still hosted on Fandom. Boo. Thank goodness the Minecraft Wiki left that.
Thank fucking god
I’m trying to figure out how to contact DuckDuckGo, so they can redirect the !mcwiki command to the new site, but no luck so far. EDIT: Nevermind, I found the form.
