About 50% of people are below average
The bright side is that only one person is the worst
Imagine communicating who ranked
firstlast anually on a national level lmao.Edit: I meant “last” not “first”. What a crucial mistake lol.
They do! It’s all part of the Hollywood liberal elite plot to tear down our country. Seriously, watch the credits on any movie - they always name the “best boy.”
LMAO I intended to write “last” but somehow typed the opposite. But your point is very concerning, indeed.
The problem is that “first” and “last” have no meaning unless the conditions are established — first in intelligence or first in stupidity?
Yes
“think of the average person. Now remember that half of everyone is dumber than them”
This cracks me up because it is often said with such confidence, but it is just wrong.
If you have 10 people, 8 have an intelligence score of 1, 1 has a score of 5 and 1 has a score of 10. The average is 2.3 which means that 80% of the people are below average.
The median is the only thing that is going to guarantee 50%.
On a bell curve the average and mean are the same. Your example isn’t a bell curve. Many things will be a bell curve.
People who don’t know that average can be mean, median or mode depending on the context crack me up.
Average is the mean, not median or mode. This doesn’t change on context. Average is always mean.
No. It’s not.
a single value (such as a mean, mode, or median) that summarizes or represents the general significance of a set of unequal values
Depending on the context, the most representative statistic to be taken as the average might be another measure of central tendency, such as the mid-range, median, or mode.
Average is always mean.
Just like the average person
Yes, that statement is made under the assumption of large sample sizes (where the central limit theorem applies)
Think about how dumb the average person is. And then remember that half of them are dumber than that!
Carlin was a prophet
But he was shit at statistics. He mixes up median and mean.
Yes but I don’t know who the average person is, maybe I know a lot of dumber than average people!
I guess the education system is really struggling …
(Also his account is satire, right?)
Yes, he is the Congressman for California’s 54th district (it only has 52, but was probably still 53 when he started the satire account).
Wow, at least 13 years. I remember coming across him when reddit was young: https://www.prwatch.org/spin/2010/09/9423/washington-post-duped-fake-congressman
oh thank christ
Err… im not sure everyone in this thread is getting the joke?
That the bottom 25% of scorers in standardized tests are in the bottom quartile of the distribution, which is literally defined as the bottom 25%, but the Twitter user seems to be using that fact to justify something yet he’s literally just stating a fact?
The bottom 25% will always exist and there will always be 25% of the results contained within it.
Not sure how anyone doesn’t get it, but this Twitter screenshot exists, so there’s that.
Oh, sorry, this “x” exists. Dumb fucking name.
The twitter account is a satire account. They’re trying to stir the pot.
But have you considered that a whopping 25% of satire posts are in the bottom quartile on the funniness bell curve?
Am I misreading this or are you doubling down on not getting it’s satire?
I like you kid, you’ve got grit.
Don’t forget that about half the population have an IQ below average
And the average IQ is already pretty low.
Good thing that IQ numbers are largely pointless.
“Money doesn’t matter” – rich people
“Look doesn’t matter” – beautiful people
“IQ doesn’t matter” – intelligent people
Edit: “IQ is important” – high IQ people
Intelligence matters. Just that IQ number is not a very good indicator of intelligence.
That’s my intended joke: intelligent people see that IQ is bullshit while high IQ people don’t (implying there is no overlap)
Poe’s law is a bitch.
Small head: He’s proving his point really well.
Big head: He’s proving his point really well.But 25% of all American students also scored in the top quartile on standardized tests, so it cancels out!
Plus, it’s amazing that every student at least got placed on the graph. Missing that would be shameful.
Just another example of those damn participation trophies.
I can’t tell if you are joking. You must be, but it reads too sincerely.
You could even call it a New Sincerity.
I’ve been told I have deadpan delivery sometimes. I guess it translates to my comments too.
I’m not sure if this is a good thing. But yes, I’m keeping with the tone set by the comment above me.
But at least the healthcare system is quite good: most people have more legs than average
More eyes too
Source?
Wait, you’re the person who said more legs than average, unsourced. Mine’s from the same obvious facts
That’s whataboutism. You have a source or not, don’t make it about me.
Are memes just straight screenshots of Twitter now?
I mean I’ll be the first to admit agenda posting, but at least I be posting memes…
Agenda posting? What is this, PCM?
This is satire.
This is officially the second dumbest take on the value of a quarter.
I knew a person who thought quarter to six meant 5:35 because “how many cents in a quarter dumbass.”
Wait…what? I’m struggling to comprehend this level of nonsense.
Quarter=25 cents. 25 minutes before six=5:35. And also OP is making it up, because no one that stupid is also doing extra math.
No no, I’ve met them. I work with them. They mostly end up in HR
“You worked an extra 15 minutes today so you’ll get paid 8.15 hours”
I mean you’re not far of. If I clock out 7 minutes late, I get 0 extra hours, if I clock out 8 minutes late, I get paid for 15 minutes and a stern taking to about clocking out on time.
That’s a very particular flavor of dumb lol.
Smart enough to put two and two together, not smart enough to realize that may not apply to every situation.
Technically, if everyone gets the full mark, no one will be in the bottom quartile.
Also, everyone would be in the bottom quartile. The definitions fall apart when you collapse the probability function.
If ever a reliable method for measuring actual intelligence rather than IQ is invented I imagine we’ll be seeing a somewhat lumpier graph than that smooth mean distribution curve.
No, this is how a graph showing quartiles will always look because quartiles, by definition, always include a fixed percentage of the studied population under them.
In this case the lower quartile will always have 25% of the population under it, 50% under the second quartile, and 75% under the third quartile.
Quartiles break a population into 4 equal portions.
While that’s true, the actual empirical curve does not have to be smooth. Or gaussian.
I know what this graph is, I was talking about a graph that actually showed something useful. If you’ve got a couple of hours to learn something useful then you could do worse than to look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo
Spendrill is not misunderstanding the OP. He’s just saying that if intelligence could be measured by a better metric, then distribution of that metric among the population would not look as smooth as the one in the OP.
It would almost certainly follow an approximate normal distribution just like the above graph. Why would it look different?
Is there a c/woosh?
Is there a c/IGotTheJokeJustWantedToMakeAGeneralPointAboutTheArtificialityOfIntelligenceQuotients
I swear if all the snide little pricks come over from reddit too I am going to have to abandon Lemmy also.
Lol. People read your comment and think you didn’t understand the original post. When in reality they are the ones who didn’t understand your comment.
I’m sure Lemmy wasn’t like this a month ago. What I was enjoying is that someone would make a post and then you could start a conversation that wasn’t strictly on topic just have an interesting talk about the general subject.
The worst thing about social networks is the people. Maybe we could just use ai to generate every response, fine tuned to the kind of conversation you specifically want. Yeah that’ll fix it.
The worst thing about social networks is some of the people. Generally, they’re fine. Same in real life.
Big if true, bruh.
It’s amazing you used standardized test stats, while I believe the test are part of the problem. When I was in school, you learned the subject, and the standardized test was a decent level. Now, all the subjects are should be called reading comprehension, because that’s how they teach. Teachers are held to teach their students how to pass the test. Extra school funds are tied to percentages based on test scores. So they pass out, and teach off of, worksheets that are mirrored off of these test. So they don’t teach science, hey teach you to answer the multiple choice questions after reading about science. Everytime my kids bring homework home i ask them if all of their work is like this, this being reading comprehension worksheets, and they say “pretty much”.
My favorite example of how broken it is is from my Senior year in high school.
The test used for funding at time was the TAAS (Texas Assessment of Academic Skills). It was insultingly easy. I aced the High School Exit Exam version of it it in 4th grade. But EVERYTHING in school was about that test.
We actually took the real test in 10th grade, so everyone had extra chances if they failed it. If you didn’t pass, you were placed in special classes that focused even MORE heavily on it so you could try again the next semester. In order to take any AP courses after 10th, you had to have already passed the test. In my English IV AP courses, every student in the class had gotten a perfect score on the exam 2 years earlier.
They still made us practice it weekly. We had block scheduling, so “weekly” was 40% of all class meetings. Why did we have to keep practicing for a test we’d already aced? Because they wanted to the teacher to practice having the students practice.
We never practiced for the SAT.
My brother on christ, that is at best a third, not a quarter
Woosh He just said the top 25% is as smart as the top 25% and the bottom 25% is as smart as the bottom 25%…
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