Nintendo, one generation behind once again.

  • @ytsedude@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    If Nintendo being “one generation behind once again” means I get more games like Breath of the Wilds, Mario Odyssey, Metroid Dread, and Tears of the Kingdom (just to name a few of the incredible first-party games this generation), then I’m fine with that!

      • @TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world
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        102 years ago

        But do we need to?

        Frankly, comparing the PS5/XSX exclusives to the Switch’s latest releases I think Nintendo is doing better than the others. We are hitting diminishing returns as far as gaming hardware advancement goes. The PS4 was already capable of outputting great visuals in large screens, and even as far as 2023 very few games really needed more than that. The Switch as it is can even handle most indie and double-A games.

        This is not even bringing up that higher definition games necessitate additional work and therefore have longer development times.

        To me, a new Switch that is as capable as the PS4 sounds pretty good.

      • @ytsedude@lemmy.world
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        72 years ago

        That’s true, but using older, less expensive hardware had almost always been part of Nintendo’s business model. A cheaper console allows them to invest in game development–time, talent, and just money. If they used cutting-edge tech, they would have thinner margins (or even lose money on the console at first as Sony and Microsoft have done in the past), which would give them less to invest into game development. Nintendo spent an entire (extra) year just tweaking and polishing TotK; if they had thinner margins from the Switch, there would probably have been more pressure to release it earlier, which would have given us a less refined game.

        I’d love it if we could have both great games and cutting-edge graphics, but at the end of the day, I’ll still take good games every time.

      • AnonTwo
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        2 years ago

        The switch is like 1/4th the steamdeck and much more comfortable as a handheld

        I still use the steamdeck more due to a larger library, but for the games that switch does support it’s usually much more comfortable. There’s definite tradeoffs to top of the line hardware on a handheld, and Nintendo has known that since that beat out the game gear with the Gameboy, mainly due to battery life back then.

        I feel like people downplay the size factor either because they don’t use it for it’s handheld properties or for them personally they have issues making it comfortable.

        And honestly I don’t see the issue with it being a gen behind. Games will still be made for it, and if it’s a top of the line turbo graphics game I’m just going to use my Desktop. I probably wouldn’t have used the Steamdeck anyway because if Switch is low range, steamdeck is midrange, and still not where my desktop is.

        But the idea of great hardware and great software is still a mixed bag. And Nintendo’s titles show that it’s not so much the hardware holding them back but that companies won’t make their games with the switch in mind, which is both fair but also gives expected results (such as the recent MK game)

    • @iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      …but did you read the part about how it’s powered by 6 AA batteries?

      JK I ain’t hatin’ 'tendos been done its own thang.

    • @whodatdair@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      But how will I know I’m better than everyone if everything isn’t shiny and I can’t see the reflection of my hot pink leopard striped assault rifle in every sweat drop on my enemy’s forehead?!

  • roofuskit
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    362 years ago

    And Nintendo will “once again” outsell hardware that out performs theirs.

  • GreenBottles
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    312 years ago

    that’s because Nintendo knows that the games matter more than the hardware

    • @echo64@lemmy.world
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      232 years ago

      It’s because Nintendo knows that portables sell massively higher than consoles for them, and that’s the reality of making a portable. Nintendo cares massively about the hardware and put a lot of effort into making something that fits their ambitions and audience.

  • @ultrasquid@sopuli.xyz
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    292 years ago

    The Switch 2 is also (likely) a handheld, and the Steam Deck is also similar in performance to the ps4/xbox as well, and only came out a year ago, so I wouldn’t expect anything much more than that (especially since the Switch 2 will probably be smaller and have a bigger battery).

    • @Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      Man, I have no interest in a handheld… I just don’t get the appeal there. I have a handheld already, it’s my phone. I want the next nintendo creation to bring me back to wii bowling, and that sort of crazy cool stuff.

      Instead, the last console brought us worse controllers that cramp your hands, and lack innovative design.

      • @butter@midwest.social
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        12 years ago

        I played Wii bowling on my steam deck. Using Dolphin, a Wii mote connected through Bluetooth, and a USB sensor bar. Then just a dock to put it on the TV and charge it.

        Only thing that gave me trouble was the speaker in the Wii mote.

  • @brygphilomena@lemmy.world
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    282 years ago

    Are people seriously bitching that a handhelds performance doesn’t match current PlayStation or Xbox specs which are ten times it’s size?

    If the switch 2 is a handheld, it has so many more physical, power, and heat constraints and I am impressed that it even matches the previous gens consoles.

  • @colonial@lemmy.world
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    252 years ago

    After seeing the various forms of black magic Nintendo devs have pulled off with what is essentially decade-old tablet hardware… yeah, fine by me.

  • @caut_R@lemmy.world
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    212 years ago

    I‘m legit happy as long as it can do 720p60fps for stuff like TotK in portable without any upsampling and whatnot.

    I‘m not playing Nintendo cause of cutting edge graphics but because of cutting edge gameplay and entertainment. Doesn‘t matter how realistic a game looks when Mario Odyssey runs laps around it in terms of the fun it provides.

    Just… provide backwards compatability, please. And as a bonus I‘d love a way for „old“ games to get better resolution and fps ideally without patches (cause we know the majority of games would never get patched).

  • @Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    152 years ago

    The thing I always thought would be in the Switch’s benefit is if the dock itself also contained hardware. On the small handheld screen, the quality looks fine enough at lower resolutions, but then looks pretty bad when blown up on a 4K TV. If the dock had additional expandable hardware to boost performance when docked, that could go a long way to help it keep up.

    • roofuskit
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      152 years ago

      That’s actually kind of how the switch works. But it’s not hardware in the dock, it’s just the ability to draw more power when plugged in allows it to increase performance.

  • stopthatgirl7
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    142 years ago

    One thing about Nintendo, they always do their own thing. They’re content to let Sony and Microsoft fight it out over hardware specs, while they just stay in their own lane.

  • @echoplex21@lemmy.world
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    32 years ago

    A simplified Legion Go looks like something we can probably expect the next device to be then. Most people have compared the Rog Ally power with the Z1 extreme as being similar to PS4/X1 .

    What they could do is a true “docked” mode where it can connect to a GPU to have it output 4K. Highly doubt as the cost would become exorbitant.

    • @simple@lemm.ee
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      52 years ago

      Frame generation would help but it’s not a silver bullet, and it definitely won’t outperform current gen consoles since it’ll still be a weak tablet in comparison.