Ford lays off 600 workers at plant targeted by UAW strike::Ford is laying off workers while the UAW is striking against Ford, GM, and Stellantis. This is getting complicated.

  • @TheMusicalFruit@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Not defending Ford here. But we need to be supporting union workers by choosing union made products and services. Those that are saying they won’t buy a Ford now, that’s your choice, but I hope you’re doing your research and at least considering other automobiles that are union instead. Here is a 2023 list of all the UAW built vehicles: https://uaw.org/solidarity_magazine/2023-uaw-union-built-vehicle-guide/amp/

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      202 years ago

      Yeah I wanted a Chevy bolt because that’s the union made electric compact. I won’t buy a struck vehicle but I’ll never buy a non union new vehicle if I can help it. Purchasing non union products is the same as purchasing products from companies retaliating against a union, the only difference is the retaliators haven’t won yet.

    • @hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      Is it bad that I would rather buy a vehicle from the 90’s because it doesn’t have all this bs in it that 1. makes it harder to repair myself and 2. Just feels weird to drive (mainly talking the fly by wire style that modern cars are using, I want to feel the feedback on my gas pedal).

      • @grue@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        No, it’s definitely not bad to think that.

        (Source: I own four cars made in the '90s, for much the same reason.)

  • @Weslee@lemmy.world
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    572 years ago

    If they can prove the layoffs are retaliation, can’t the workers sure them? Or does that only apply to the initial action of unionisation?

          • @grue@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            The US is a first world country… by definition, because “first world” means “NATO,” not “high on the human development index.”

      • @evidences@lemmy.world
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        342 years ago

        There are actually protections for striking according to the NLRB “depending on the purposes and means of the strike action.”

      • @Rebels_Droppin@lemmy.world
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        222 years ago

        I believe if it’s an unsanctioned wildcat strike they can fire without it being retaliation, but if it’s a strike backed by the NLRB they have to prove it isn’t retaliation and I don’t think the days gone by an official strike counts here. I could be wrong but that is what I remember about wildcat strike differences

      • @youngalfred@lemm.ee
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        122 years ago

        That’s interesting - in Australia we do have ‘protected action’ that can be taken when bargaining. Basically each workplace in a union has a vote to strike (endorsed by the fair work commission) and if it gets up any action taken is protected from retaliation.

      • @Jonna@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        It depends on the kind of strike. Workers that strike over a company’s unfair labor practice are protected from permanent replacements. This is not that tho. While they are far apart, I don’t think they can accuse the companies of refusing to negotiate.

        Of course if the union wins the strike then no replacement.

  • Flying Squid
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    402 years ago

    And this is one of the reasons they’re striking in the first place.

  • OBG
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    62 years ago

    Poking the UAW with a stick may not work the way Ford thinks it will.

    • @ALavaPulsar@lemmy.world
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      542 years ago

      If they want their new EVs to be eligible federal tax credit, the cars need to undergo final assembly in the US. Not to mention we just went through a pandemic that showed us the weaknesses of shipping all our manufacturing to third world countries.

    • @alvvayson@lemmy.world
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      432 years ago

      That makes sense for a techbro or a financebro, but turning the blue collar labour force into a horde of minimum wage slaves serving coffee and delivering UPS packages isn’t exactly the future that those people want.

    • MrSpArkle
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      132 years ago

      Yeah, we shouldn’t make anything expensive in the US. We should make them abroad and then the unemployed hordes will buy those goods!

      Your statement is too stupid to be anything but a troll.

    • @orphiebaby@lemm.ee
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      72 years ago

      You’d have a point, if it weren’t for the fact that you’re targeting the wrong issues.