• @iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world
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    552 years ago

    So what I dislike about this is that the driver is the one choosing. If the customer was placing their preference, and then Lyft agrees to attempt to place them with their preference (for a surcharge of course, priority service shouldn’t be free) that would be something I could get behind. Letting drivers flat refuse service to someone based solely on their gender sounds like opening the doors to discrimination suits.

  • @malloc@lemmy.world
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    472 years ago

    This idea of feeling safe is causing us to regress as a society. This “feature” is just discrimination wrapped in a nice sounding name — “Women Plus Connect” and UI.

    We used to be able to identify the predators in our communities and do some sort of action: jail them, shame them, beat them up, whatever. Now we are using fear of them to perpetuate discrimination and AVOID them.

    • @michaelrose@lemmy.ml
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      302 years ago

      We were historically terrible at identifying predators and mostly let them alone to victimize or if their victims were less important destroyed victims lives as a matter of course leading to wide scale silence by victims.

      We have less crime by far and prosecute more scumbags than we did 50 years ago.

      Communities “handling” bad folks by individual violence never worked worth a shit because communities have always cared about whose more important than who is right and it doesn’t meaningfully scale which is why it never worked worth a shit it real life.

      In order to deal with shit heads you have to have a dispassionate authority whose job it is to prosecute shit heads who isn’t politically bound to give a shit about your penny ante local bullshit and the expectation that local yokels will properly do their job and push shit up the food chain or be held accountable.

    • Ghostalmedia
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      02 years ago

      I assume they’ll probably check with the gender people put on their drivers licenses or something.

      • @cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca
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        12 years ago

        They can’t really check that you’re non binary, that’s not a sex that appears on most (any?) drivers licenses/ID.

        I think this case is far fetched, the ride share company has your info which makes the legal case against you a slam dunk.

        • Ghostalmedia
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          22 years ago

          Yes, they can in. Non binary licenses are available in all 3 states that they’re piloting in. CA, AZ, and Il all have them.

          • @cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca
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            22 years ago

            That’s actually really cool to hear. Where I live it’s still “sex: M/F” but trans people are able to get it changed.

    • @5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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      92 years ago

      I guess that if I ever use lyft I would describe myself as whichever classification gives you more privilege. In this case I would go with non binary woman

  • snooggums
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    92 years ago

    Wow, this thread is a bunch of people spouting an updated version of the “men in women’s bathrooms is gonna lead to rape” bullshit.

  • @pixxelkick@lemmy.world
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    Step 0: Be the sort of scum that would assault a lyft driver
    Step 1: Set your identity to non binary as a rider
    Step 2: Dress in a way to appear non-binary, even a little bit. Honestly just painting your nails purple and wearing thick glasses is probably enough to not raise suspicion. Most people wont try and question this and interrogate you over it. If they do, filter them off and be a normal rider.
    Step 3: If they don’t question it, congrats, Lyft has no just done the work of assisting you with finding your next victim, great job Lyft!

    Bonus round~!

    1. Be a nazi
    2. Do steps 1-3 above
    3. Set your destination to be somewhere vaguely secluded where your fellow nazi friends are lying in wait.
    4. Congrats, Lyft has now successfully routed a non-binary identifying person directly into you and your nazi friend’s clutches, great job lyft!
    • snooggums
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      -22 years ago

      So people who haven’t been doing that already are going to suddenly go out of their way using steps that will show obvious intent during future prosecution?

        • snooggums
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          12 years ago

          They haven’t been abusing drivers already.

          Yes, targeting could conceivably make it easier but it was already possible.

          • @pixxelkick@lemmy.world
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            22 years ago

            targeting could conceivably make it easier but it was already possible.

            I agree…

            You understand this is the entire point of what I wrote though, right? That in an effort to try and make lyft safer, they have effectively done the exact opposite and literally made it easier for abusers to target victims.

  • Ghostalmedia
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    -102 years ago

    I look forward to seeing the same people suing over bathroom access doing the mental gymnastics to sue over this.