This is the propaganda I can get behind.
And with trolleybuses powered on a renewable grid, it’s zero gallons!
Or maybe tell bosses that if your job can be done remotely it should be done remotely. Then there’s more room on the bus for people who need to be in meatspace to do their jobs.
If only bosses were open to persuasion.
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They kinda forgot that unions and strikes are already the better alternative for them.
As much as I enjoy wanton violence for the ruling elite, a good start would be threatening the politicians with this unless they implement laws that make it unprofitable to force people into offices.
It should be codified that if a job can be performed remotely, it ought be, with the voluntary option to have people go to offices and such.
Yeah, tell it my boss. I had this conversation today with her.
I wish I didn’t need hands for my job, 90% of it is brain work with a tinker here and there. I see so many videos of robotic hands being used for things and can’t wait for the day I can just send one of these out to a site equipped with some tools and just remotely tap into the video stream. It’s coming and I don’t think it will be too long. Hell, I’m just a layman and if you gave me a dedicated year and some funding I could get something viable up to par so I’m sure it’s possible, guess it just won’t profit anyone enough to sell it yet.
We used to have trolleybuses when I was a kid in the 70’s, they were so insanely much more nice to ride than a diesel. No bad smell, and they were smooth and quiet.
I guess we will get back to something similar soon, but with batteries.
Trolleybuses are great. Fuck Sobyanin.
New electric buses in London are fucking amazing, no need for trolleys.
Until in 5-10 years when the batteries are fucked.
That’s the beautiful thing about trolley buses - they do not need a (substantial) battery. They are basically trains on wheels.
There are some places where battery powered buses make sense - for example, where I live, lucerne Switzerland, there is one bus line that just goes up and down a rather steep hill. By using recuperative braking, the battery powered bus is super efficient. For other, normal ‘high traffic’ lines, trolley makes so much more sense
Trolleys don’t really make any sense. I come from Riga, it has a lot of trolleys and the city is designed around trolleys and trams. And yet modern trolleys have bloody diesel engines, because being permanently hooked to the wire makes no sense at all. It’s much better to have electric buses with a few overhead wires here and there to fast charge on the go.
Ah, you should see buses in my city. Dirty, thirty years old, overpopulated graves on wheels with no air conditioners.
Never again.
with no air conditioners.
Dear Faust. Are they using Soviet minibuses?
Ha! I have nothing but good memories about PAZ-3205. Fast, comfortable, with working AC.
LIAZ-677, on the other hand… now that’s a proper torture machine
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/LiAZ-677_bus_in_Bor.jpg
LIAZ-677, on the other hand… now that’s a proper torture machine
Whoa! Bus from 60-ies!
Thirty years old is a perfectly reasonable age for a big chunk of a city’s fleet. You’re still talking kneeling busses.
Then start campaigning for better public infrastructure.
But everybody loves cars! Just look at how many cars people buy all the time!
/s
Gallons? Shouldn’t it be liters?
Shamelessly stolen from I can’t remember.
The only issue I have with this is there’s a British gallon (that is DIFFERENT from the American gallon) that is used to measure milk. :D. That was the only place I saw gallon being used.
Brits use tons and tonnes as separate units? Not confusing at all
When I think tonne, I think 1000kg. When I think ton, I just think of the vernacular “tons of stuff” type expression.
Actually, as much as I dislike imperial units, when it comes to body temperature I do think in Fahrenheit. Mostly because that’s how my mum would tell if we were too sick to go to school. 99 - just a little ill, but you can have the day off. 100 - pretty ill, probably at least 3 days off. 101+ - super mega ill, off all week.
It’s Bri’ish, innit
No, litres.
Reminds me article name from USSR newspaper about plane crash: “Gallons let down”/“Подвели галлоны”.
It’s not a modern poster
Recently visited York (UK) and they have a fantastic bus system - and they’re electric.
Busses in my city are also going electric. So far only the local routes. The longer distance routes are still diesel
I could take 68 men. That’s a normal Saturday night for me.
…in a fight right?
Can’t take any more, because at 69 you’ll blow a rod.
And not in a good way either…
We need to get one more man to work
It makes a good point but only if your country actually has public transport.
If you live somewhere with zero public transport, the car is your only option.
You make a good point but only if your country actually has roads.
If you live somewhere with no paved roads and only railroads, then that and walking are your only options.
(Sarcasm but I’m curious if you see the point)
You’re trying to be sarcastic but you just described rural Canada
Well yes, except all the railroads where removed. Just lifted trucks and gravel roads as far as the eye can see.
😊
That’s why the post advocates for public transport. So that we can have better options.
If you live somewhere, you’re a part of the body that decides things like that. If you want public transit in your community, and you certainly should, take the steps to get the action started.
Nobody is going to change the world on our behalf; it all falls on us.
Whats one of the concrete steps? I don’t know where you lives but here it seems impossible to push for that.
Starts by being an active member of the community. Attend counsel meetings, town hearings, etc. Bring up the topic at these, gauge the response. Talk to the people who seem enthusiastic in response. Work together and build a petition, then seek signatures first amongst the people who attend, then talk to your neighbors.
I never said it was going to be easy, I only said nobody else is going to do it on your behalf.
The correct answer actually should -and could- be 0 gallons if they simply cycle to work. Granted, that requires them to have the right infrastructure available, but if (once) that existed, the vast majority of the work force could cycle to work happily. Most people don’t live 20 miles or more from where they work
It could also be 0 gallons if the busses are electrified, or if the rail system is expanded, or if we stop pushing office workers to commute every day.
There are many routes to 0 emissions.
Oh sure.
I’m just sayjt that we need to change the way we live. Like you said, people should not be required to work in offices anymore. If they physically need to be at locations, let them walk for short distances, cycle for medium distances and use public transportation for large distances.
Most cities in the world have been redesigned over the past 80 years for cars. It’s insane and it left most cities awful places to live in. Almost all Dutch cities have been redesigned for people. So people walk and cycle because they can, and the cities look and feel amazing and beautiful.
Sure, I’d love to cycle 56km to and from work each day. Especially right after a night shift.
We should just invent portals already.
If we invented portals I feel like they would use more fossil fuels than just driving.
I think the bones are fully consumed by the teleportation ritual.
bones will be the fuel
56 kms is far, indeed. Thsts what you make public transportation for. Trains, busses.
Well done, the would be more comfortable and faster than a car.
However, I did 25 kms to and from every day. Took me 45 minutes and it was super healthy
45 minutes is a long time near nightfall, though… Honestly I’d rather take a bus at 5PM, even at 12km, since there are other people and it feels much safer.
Maybe… Move closer to where you work?
Then why wife would be further from where she works.
I never thought of that. Thanks! Now I just need a shit ton of money to do so!
How many gallons does the ambulance take to get the cyclist to the hospital after the hit and run?
(Seriously tho bicycles ftw except in winter)
Winter cycling is awesome*, I can finally get to work without being sweety.
*Winter experience is highly dependent on how well your area does SNIC
Less, probably, because cycling in on itself is safer than driving a car. Lower speeds, less mass, less injuries.
Also, winter cycling.is awesome
I was being facetious; ambulance fuel use is a silly comparison :)
Listening to all y’all winter cyclists I lament that I live in a city where the bike lanes are where the city piles up the snow it plows off the car lanes on the streets. RIP me. It gives me hope and happiness to know that there are cities that don’t do this!
This was a lot more appealing before COVID.
Masks work.
Vaccines exist. COVID is not a thing anyone I know worries about anymore. I keep getting surprised on the internet.
Fun fact: first working vaccines were created during first months of pandemic.
Yeah, but it took ages for them to be manufactured in large numbers.
And six times as long as best.
Exactly!
70mins of walking/train/walking… Or 25mins door to door in the comfort of my car.
In London?
With the added bonus of storage space for all sorts of things!
In civilized places, buses take about as long as a car, as they’re prioritized in infrastructure. The added benefit is that you don’t even need to own a 2 ton death machine.
Not the case where I live. What is a ten minute drive quite literally takes the bus 50 to 80 minutes.
I can’t justify that much wasted time both ways. That’s about two hours of my day I could be spending doing anything but riding the bus.
That’s not an argument against mass transit as much as it’s an argument against building car-centric infrastructure.
Fair, but it is the reality a lot of people live with. I would love for us to have a Netherlands approach to biking, but we don’t. And we have brutally cold winters, where waiting for a bus is made even more undesirable, and biking less of an option because of how treacherous the snow makes everything (including driving).
To me it seems more like a pleasant fantasy than a realistic expectation. For other places I’m sure it is an attainable reality.
It’s all about location.
I don’t think you’ll meet a transit/urbanism advocate who will tell you to ride transit that doesn’t exist where you are or that is wildly impractical for you. I certainly won’t. For me, it’s more about doing what makes the most sense for you, while also pushing to change the infrastructure where you are to make transit and urbanism better and more feasible for more people.
I have written my council pushing for changes to existing biking laws to make it safer in my city. So you’re rightz we have to push for what we need. Nothing changes if we don’t voice our concerns.
Fuck off with your condensed bullshit, not everyone lives in cities, not everyone wants to live in cities.
Let me guess, you’re a 'murican?
Nice assumption you wrongly made.
Won’t work in the US. We all hate each other.
British people all hate English people. Even the English.
Now consider an electric bus
Now consider a trolley.
but this isn’t new technology where you can write a 100 bullshit news article about and prais it as the next big thing because it actually works and is efficient
But that’ll take away people’s freedom to pay a subscription for heated seats 😔
