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    More recently, Harmel gave the victim a new phone without cellular data. However, the teenager was able to connect to Wi-Fi via the phone and used it to access the online game Among Us. The victim then seemingly used Among Us’ in-game chat function to contact another teenager in a lobby. The two exchanged social media details

    Please, teach your kids how to email the cops.

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        Yeah, most phones can call 112 or 911 without a SIM card, but apparently some networks still block them which is more than a little fucked up.

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          Seems like the kind of networks regulators should shut down

          or at least fine a few million per day

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          All phones can, and all networks in the US and EU at least are legally required to accept emergency calls from any phone, if it’s in their network or not, or if it has a simcard or not.

          The SIM card only acts to identify you, it is not technically necessary to place any call

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            I wonder how it decides what network to use when the Sim is out.

            Strongest network? Preferred network? Chooses the one that’s been the biggest bitch as a fuck you to them?

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            now that’s just not true, or at least can be made not true. There is no technical measure preventing someone from flashing a ROM that completely blocks 911 and other special numbers, or be like postmarketOS on quite a few phones and don’t support calls at all.

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        They may not have been in range of any towers. I’m not and i don’t live in rural Oregon.

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      Subject: Kidnapping!

      Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to inform you of a kidnapping that has me held on the premises of 123 Cavendon Road.

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      I mean, he had internet. He probably could have googled how to email them.

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      Fuck the police, need other organization to contact. The police won’t help, more likely to help kidnappers or shoot the victim.

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          Well damn sure isn’t the police. I seen in a public restroom at my local convenience store had a crisis line to call if you were being trafficked. Wasn’t 911 or police. Downvote all yall want the truth in America cops are not here to help you or me. Never were.

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    The victim is from Utah, rescued in Oregon. It sounds like something from a third-world country, but it happens everywhere.

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        USA is first world by definition, regardless of what happened it can only ever be first world because the USA, is by definition first world.

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            That’s not the definition of first world… Switzerland is a third world country by definition

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              Anywhere but the selfish United States it is. Do they not teach you how words and language can evolve…?

              The only place still using the antiquated definition is the US. I think it’s so they can feel better or something, but yeah. Stop perpetuating outdated and racist definitions.

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          Whose fucking definition?

          It’s really hilarious how they create arbitrary “definitions” for themselves and pick and choose when and how to use them.

          Have to put down people of developing countries? yea, you’re from third world country. It’s suddenly about standard of life, civic sense, and freedom.

          Falls to fascism like it’s just another weekend and lets police run like brown shirts, does very little when they build concentration camps and climate choking machines, now the condition for “first world” switches to “we’re still ‘first world’ because we defined it”

          Fuck right off with your made up definitions. You can self assign yourself whatever the fuck you want, doesn’t mean rest of the world has to adhere by your “definition”.

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            By its literal definition. First world describes the US and its allies, the second world described the Soviet bloc, and the third world is everyone else/the non-aligned nations.

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              That’s the US definition… the rest of the world refuses to acknowledge that defintion and uses a modern one. It’s antiquated and a selfish, only the US continues its use in that defintion.

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            Here’s Wikipedia. It’s not my definition. I’m also not saying people haven’t used it in a derogatory way now as a term to refer to underdeveloped nations.

            The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact. The United States, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, the Southern Cone, Western European countries and other allies represented the “First World”, while the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Romania and the rest of the Warsaw Pact and their allies represented the “Second World”. This terminology provided a way of broadly categorizing the nations of the Earth into three groups based on political divisions. Due to the complex history of evolving meanings and contexts, there is no clear or agreed-upon definition of the Third World.[1] Strictly speaking, “Third World” was a political, rather than economic, grouping.[2] Political alignments in Europe during the Cold War after 1961

            Since most Third World countries were economically poor and non-industrialized, it became a stereotype or a derogatory euphemism to refer to developing countries as “third-world.” In political discourse, the term Third World was often associated with being underdeveloped. China was labeled “Third World” for several decades in the 20th century before its robust development in the 21st century. Some countries in the Eastern Bloc, such as Cuba, were often regarded as Third World. The Third World was normally seen to include many countries with colonial pasts in Africa, Latin America, Oceania, and Asia. It was also sometimes taken as synonymous with countries in the Non-Aligned Movement. In the dependency theory of thinkers like Raúl Prebisch, Walter Rodney, Theotônio dos Santos, and others, the Third World has also been connected to the world-systemic economic division as “periphery” countries dominated by the countries comprising the economic “core”.[1]

            In the Cold War, some European democracies (Austria, Finland, Ireland, Sweden, and Switzerland) were neutral in the sense of not joining NATO, but were prosperous, never joined the Non-Aligned Movement, and seldom self-identified as part of the Third World.

            Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, other terms have also been used instead of Third World such as developing countries, least developed countries or the Global South.

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              You just conveniently leave out the portion that talks about the modern defintion and interject your own. The fuck?

              It’s been a while since someone has intentionally editorialize a quote, probably why you left out all the hyperlinks and everything too.

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      Isn’t this from the US? I mean, isn’t that close to third world to standards compared to Canada or Europe?

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      FYI, “third world” is culturally insensitive, if not racist. Hell, even “developing countries” is ethnocentric at its core. Of course, “historically exploited, oppressed, exsanguinated nations” doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. 😅

      And, yeah, after volunteering w/ anti-trafficking orgs in the PacNW, I learned that NE OR is a notorious crossover for that and worse.

      Vast tracts of wild foothills, deep gorges, alpine mountains, dense forests, geolithic scatter, et al, are a added obstacular layers to justice groups.

      For example, The Hunted was not unrealistic in its depiction. Meek’s Cutoff, Leave No Trace, Pig, and even the classic Stand By Me are right up there, too. (FWIW, Wild is a honorable mention for showcasing the diverse, and largely untouched backcountry along the PCT) 🤘🏼

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          Just another step on the euphemism treadmill honestly. And less accurate. Idk what’s wrong with saying a country is developing or undeveloped, its much less ambiguous than global south or third world, when 99% of the time what youre trying to say is that the country lacks infrastructure, economic development, and law and order.

          Imo “Global South” is actually the most problematic of the three because it implies that a country is undeveloped because of its geographic position. I.e. the implication is “if you’re south of the equator, your country sucks.” Any nation can move from undeveloped to developing or developing to developed, but you can’t move your physical location on the map.

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            What makes a country ‘developed’? Is the US becoming undeveloped because they’ve fallen so far below the standard of other countries with a high quality of life? If countries move from ‘undeveloped’ to ‘developing’ to ‘developed’ what happens when they start to move backwards? You can’t say they’re ‘developing’ because that implies forward progress, so then does the middle stage become ‘de-developing’? And at what point is progress supposed to just stop because the country is ‘developed’ now? That implies a finality to the process. The whole thing is stupid.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

              Developed vs developing vs undeveloped are pretty well defined. They are relative terms. So sure you could in theory move from developed to developing, that kind of thing happens very rarely though.

              I do agree that “developing” implies progression towards developed, so a more accurate term would be something like “partially developed” but its clunkier. Overall though I think they are far more accurate terms than the alternatives.

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                From your link: "According to the United Nations Statistics Division:

                There is no established convention for the designation of "developed" and "developing" countries or areas in the United Nations system.[7]"
                

                I do think rankings like the Human Development Index can be useful, which is a 1-5 ranking based on seven criteria like quality of life, life expectancy and income, but calling some countries ‘developed’ as though they’ve hit the end of some process and no further work needs to be done, while other countries must obviously be ‘developing’ towards that standard is just such an incredibly arrogant narrow-minded worldview that really showcases American exceptionalism.

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                  Well, I wouldn’t say that “developed” implies countries aren’t trying to improve themselves further, any more than “rich” people aren’t trying to get richer. You can call it whatever you want but at the end of the day you need to have some terms to describe poor countries where people die of treatable diseases because they lack infrastructure and money, and countries that don’t (as an example). Global South is just a euphemism for the same but a lot less intuitive and accurate.

                  There isnt a developing country on the planet that isn’t trying to be considered developed.

                  And I dont think this is a particulary American term. Third-world, sure.

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    The same willingness to believe and help on the part of the kid in the game chat is what got the girl kidnapped.

    Parents think, “Oh, she’s fifteen, she’s been online for years now, she knows not to trust strangers.”

    People generally, and especially good kids, want to help and there are a few people who learn how to take advantage of this. I do mean a few, we hear about this in news reports because news reports don’t report on the mundane things. We pass these reports around because they’re outrageous, and salacious. There are 8 billion of us on this planet, and the wide, vast majority have never been kidnapped.

    It’s important to keep this in mind because, stoking fear is how people are lured to the dark side. And, our news media, run by billionaires, plays an active role in that.

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    Haven’t tried the game in a while but wasn’t it really difficult to unlock the chat after some update? On purpose because child safety, ironically.

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    So the kidnapping happened in Utah, they were found in Oregon, but the kidnapper is being tried in Idaho? Where does Idaho fit into the crime?

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    In canada you can make a police report online in most cities, how come the US doesn t have this?

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    Dude what the fuck. This motherfucker needs to be strung up and hacked apart alive.

    Jesus fucking Christ humans what the fuck