There are already riots and protests here and it’s been happening for years, not sure where you are getting your information from if you think otherwise.
Now, I think these will intensify if anything illegal happens with the midterms, more people will definitely lose their shit at that point, but protests have been pretty steady in every state. In fact, they have been record setting protests, so to imply people aren’t already protesting in the US definitely not true at all.
I suspect maybe the corporate owned news is part of the reason so many people think it’s not really happening, but it is and if you make a point to look for examples, plenty are available.
I get my news from many sources, I know about the No Kings protests. They pale in comparison to what’s happening somewhere like Paris. If a protest is inconsequential, then it means very little, people go about their day.
They pale in comparison to what’s happening somewhere like Paris.
Protests and disruption in Minnesota did a lot at the beginning of this year. There were many violent clashes coming out of those protests. Two protestors were killed, dozens were permanently injured or disabled, hundreds more were hospitalized, and thousands were arrested. And the result of those protests were the firing of the senior official in charge of the Department of Homeland Security, several other immigration officials, and a major pullback of operations, an end to that style of aggressive immigration enforcement operations.
Meanwhile, other action included legal work that got literally thousands of arrestees released and the resignation of many of the prosecutors brought on to try to investigate and prosecute fraud in the Somali American community, a racially targeted and legally unsupported use of law enforcement resources.
The whole operation was also a disaster for the popularity of the ruling party, and we’ll see in the next 16 hours or so just how badly this costs them in the actual power structures of our governments.
There were significant protests in LA around then, too.
Many corporate news sources by the sound of it. Believe what you like I guess.
Judge me all you want and downvote with your bot net, it’s meaningless.
So when you get downvoted a lot your first thought isn’t “Was I out of line there?” It’s, “they must be cheating!” - That tells me a lot about how your mind works.
I don’t have a botnet. I’m guessing it’s more because you’re just full of shit and people are downvoting you (you know, because you’re full of shit). It’s Lemmy though, so votes are visible. If you’re that paranoid, go check for yourself!
TIL I am part of your botnet
Cool, can you like, go get me some money or something?
Why would European riots/protests spill over to America? That’s not how this works.
Americans have been protesting. Rioting, not so much. Those are much more rare in the US than France.
Mass movements spring from the ground up, and the American working class quite famously doesn’t see themselves as part of the global working class. Solidarity protests are few and far between.
Americans have been picnicking at unprecedented scale.
I saw a thread about it where someone asked “Ok, but what are our demands this time? All this turnout is useless if we don’t do anything with it”.
The answer given? Vote.
… That was all. …
People are getting tear gassed, pepper sprayed, beaten, shot, etc., how is that a picnic exactly? You lose an eye picnicking? Pretty hardcore picnics over here in the states…
The comment was on the fecklessness of the ‘resistance’, not downplaying the brutality of the established order.
Americans have been taught “the right way” to resist by their class enemies. At this rate they’ll frog-costume-dance all the way into the camps holding hands and chanting “this is the way”.
Apart from the valid things that have already been mentioned in this thread: police violence in the USA is a thing. Hell, you can get shot for helping a fellow protestor. Yes I know, police != ICE, but if a real riot breaks out, I can imagine sending in the most ruthless (and psychopatically trigger-happy) shock troops to quell them.
Police violence isn’t just a US-specific problem.
No it isn’t and I am not saying that it is. Actually, our media are doing their best to downplay racist police violence in one of our biggest cities.
To return the whataboutism: in the US, as a toddler, you can get killed by the police because your mother alledgedly stole some groceries (and because you happen to have the wrong skin color). If that is the bar for police violence, I can only imagine what will happen during an aactual riot (as in looting stores etc).
This still isn’t stopping people from protesting in the US. Whoever says there isn’t protesting here is just straight up wrong, that is pure disinformation. I have seen the streets lined with protesters in multiple cities and towns on numerous going back years.
People are standing up despite the risk.
You are not wrong and I am not saying that there are no protests. Where I live, protests in the US are severly underreported (due to fear of the far right), but I am aware of them. I was referring to riots, with barricades, looting and all that stuff. As far as I am aware, that is not happining in the US right now, but please feel free to correct me.
There are some riots but I would agree they are not happening on the scale that they appear to be in France, at least not presently.
Ask me after the midterms.
Folks in the US are both comfortable enough and unsteady enough that they will not move. It was Zizek about a week back who said it, people are not desperate enough yet to get to this stage. *** sniff! ***
There is no reason to think that would happen
I honestly think it’ll hit Canada first. Our population is smaller than France’s. Not that I’m advocating for it or anything
Having grown up in the US, I don’t see anything substantial happening short of civil war unfortunately. And even then it won’t have clear borders, it’ll be scorched earth class war
The US had the perfect opportunity on Halloween with the “de Flock” movement and that appears to have gone nowhere.
50 years.
Cops are going to go ape shit if their supply of cans of Pepsi gets cut off.
I think they’re planning a group dance over zoom. That or sending thoughts and prayers.
Depends if they come by boat or by plane.
They don’t even reach all of Europe
they won’t. our capitalist owning class has ensured the workers are far too tired, depressed, poor, and infighting.
Speak for yourself.
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You have to understand the cultural context translated between countries.
When the french protest and riot and burn shit, that is the French cultural language of protest, a thinly veiled threat that the state is only in charge as long as the public gives it a mandate. If push comes to shove, the public can always find a new state to run things. They evoke the spirit of the French Revolution as a core message. It says “we did it last time, and if you force us, we’ll do it again.”
Translating this to the American context, when the government became so corrupt that a Pedophile and convicted serial rapist and fraudster and his band of merry fascists and techno-trillionaires threaten the very foundation of American society, Americans do what they are culturally programed to do. They shoot up a school full of innocent children because deep down they know their culture has no future worth living and it should end out of mercy for future generations. It says “We are cowards for allowing this monstrosity to exist and it doesn’t deserve to be experienced by anyone.”.
Understood in this light, they have been protesting for years and years with escalating ferocity.
Edit: spelling and clarity
I was just going to say that the average us person is just lazy and complacent but, yeah, I think you have put it more succinctly.
I provoke because they earned it.
Twice. They earned it twice.
