I have to rethink my priorities I guess.
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I think there should be one clock for the entire planet and fuck timezones. Most people don’t actually care about what specific number hour the sun rises. Zenith at 4? Fuckit. Communication between people is more important than the movement of celestial bodies.
In my country daylights savings makes even less sense. We are already out of sync with solar time, because of Hitler. The Netherlands should follow GMT not CET. When the Netherlands was occupied ze Germans instated CET. So setting the clock back during summer will actually make the Netherlands almost 2 hours out of sync with the sun.
I hate daylight savings time so much.
Do other countries do this stupid shit? We can’t even do time right
As an Indian, no we don’t.
some countries do. Wikipedia link
I just strongly dislike my biorhythms being thrown out of whack for several weeks twice a year.
The real problem with daylight savings time is that we haven’t killed and devoured the oligarchy/hegemony/kakistocracy.
Shorter work days? The corporate and government bastards would add a week or month to the calendar, especially in the 3rd World countries, China and USA. Those folks would embrace it with their stupid work hard beyond the point of diminishing return attitude while the civilized 1st World countries would revolt.
I would like more daylight in the evening and also a shorter work day, thanks.
Right?? I just realized it’s gonna be dark before 6PM now.
I used to live in a WV valley, and it would be nighttime at 3:30PM.
Yesterday I saw a video with a sleep expert.
She said that human beings have a problem getting up until it’s light and that Daylight Saving Time can mess that up.
I propose that AT THE VERY LEAST, during the winter, work days be one hour shorter, but with no decrease in pay, and that they start an hour later.
This will allow people to have a proper amount of sleep, and to see the sun in the morning, to be better rested, and to see the sun at the end of the day.
I propose that AT THE VERY LEAST, during the winter, work days be one hour shorter
This isn’t something you “propose”, this is something you demand when negotiating your job offer. If you’re not an in-demand worker and can’t do that, then join a union and have the union demand it.
Really, this whole daylight time / standard time debate is stupid. Solar noon should be at 12pm. Once you’ve fixed that, adjust other things. If in the summer people want more evening sun, then start work earlier. If in the winter they want more morning sun to make commutes safer, then start work later.
It’s absolutely ridiculous to have the freedom to change work hours and clocks, and think that the reasonable thing to do is to change the clocks so noon isn’t at noon, rather than just change work hours.
We used to do that in the 19th century before standard time was a thing with railways. Though scheduling an online meeting with anyone outside your city would be hell, for example a 9:00am meeting in New York City would be 8:48am in Boston and 9:12am in DC.
You should have also have a read on Japan’s time system before 1873 in the Meiji period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_clock
It breaks the day and night in 6 parts each. These parts are longer in summer and shorter in winter, corresponding to a changing length of the work day, which is what you were describing. Certain aspects were retained in Japanese vocabulary like 午 still used to represent noon like in afternoon (but using the standard 24h clock), or the word for snack derived from the number 8 because that was what represented the time 2/3s of the way through the day when labourers of the day typically took a break and had some tea and a light meal.
We used to do that in the 19th century before standard time was a thing with railways.
No, with railroads each city had their own time. I’m not suggesting that. I’m saying that time zones should be arranged so that solar noon falls close to 12pm. With DST solar noon can be as late as 1:30pm, or perhaps even later in badly designed time zones. That’s dumb. Solar noon should be close to noon. We shouldn’t mess with that. If that makes certain other things like commuting or sending kids to school inconvenient, we should change the hours at which those activities happen.
Or, just use UTC for the time for everything and never change it. Then everyone’s in the same time zone, and you no longer have to wonder what time it is in Baku. You’d still have to do a bit of digging to know what normal work hours and normal sleeping hours are in Baku if you wanted to contact someone there though.
I agree that doing away with conventions like “9-to-5” would be a good idea, and just adjust schedules to whatever is healthiest rather than try to conform to a fixed system where not necessary. In China with a single timezone, the regions far west of Beijing supposedly just go about their day with offset schedules.
I’m saying that time zones should be arranged so that solar noon falls close to 12pm.
I suppose you might have meant that, but you did say in the earlier reply, quote, “Solar noon should be at 12pm” which would suggest each city would have its own noon so that it can be true for most people. Maybe I’m being too literal bordering on facetious, so I’ll stop there. Sorry for my misinterpretation of your comment.
which would suggest each city would have its own noon
No, it would suggest that each person should have their own personal noon, if you’re being pedantic.
Yeah, if the day started at such a time that I could wake up at 8am, which is when the sky would be lightening up just before sunrise in the dead of winter (if we stayed on DST), that’d be sweet. I am one of the sun in the morning people, but I’d be willing to rethink my position.
And the worst part is that my jobs generally start at 10am. I’m just surrounded by days that start way earlier. I also have jobs that start at 530, or 630, or 730, and so the evening light was never such a big deal for me.
You should also go to bed when the Sun sets. you do that too, right?
No you shouldn’t. Not at all actually. Your hormones typically build up to initiate the sleep cycle around 9:30-10:00pm. It’s skience brah.
Lol if you’re going to bed that early and sleeping until sun up then you have early symptoms of dementia.
Wow how did that evolve?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep
Could be because humanity spread out from more equatorial areas? So we evolved to sleep at night because they used to be regular from season to season.
Hmmm they make a strong case. We should think about trying this.
I mean… I have young kids with delacate sleep schedules, and I just want them to stop fucking with the clock. Please just pick a lane and stay in it.
Ya know… a shorter workday in the winter is one heck of an idea. I like it.
shorter work days mean longer work days in summer. No thanks
Can I have comforting hugs instead of kissing?
Can I have full on making out instead of kissing?
Granted
Do all the people who have daylight savings time also use energy savings bulbs and money savings tips?
10-3 workday with 2 hour lunch with wine!!! … But only if dems win 60 senate seats.
This is pretty much what I do minus the lunch wine just because I’m sober, to make up for the time I usually work a couple hours a few nights a week while watching a movie on something on the couch.
Skip the wine and have a really nice piece of bread.
