• Quazatron@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    January: We’re going AI native, please use AI as much as possible.

    March: Everyone needs to attend workshops on how to maximize AI productivity.

    July: Some models are only available for special (properly justified) cases. Speak to your manager. Turns out that some people did everything (even commits) with top cost models.

    August: Ok, we’re setting some limits on token usage, due to some people spending 1000% over the average.

    September: we are creating additional frameworks and limits to AI use.

    It took a bit of time for the actual AI cost/benefit to reach the top management and put some hard numbers in contrast with the hype machine, but it’s happening.

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      13 hours ago

      Everyone who was paying attention even a little bit has known this would be the trajectory from the beginning. And we haven’t even gotten to the crazy price hikes per token that are coming.

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        And we haven’t even gotten to the crazy price hikes per token that are coming.

        Why do you think that?

        IMHO, API prices are likely to drop over time as we scale up and efficiencies are found, combined with general pricing pressure from the competition… SOTA models will continue to have SOTA prices, of course, but reasonable priced distilled and open weights models are already common.

        A consequence of API prices dropping is that “heavily discounted” consumer plans will also adjust and won’t be so generous relative to API prices.

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          Because these companies started selling at a loss from the start to get people hooked. Neither Claude nor OpenAI are turning a profit right now.

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          12 hours ago

          IMHO, API prices are likely to drop over time as we scale up and efficiencies are found, combined with general pricing pressure from the competition… SOTA models will continue to have SOTA prices, of course, but reasonable priced distilled and open weights models are already common.

          Some of this seems like wishful thinking to me.

          “as we scale up” We already have large data centers, and, if anything, “scaling up” is just driving up expenses for debt and hardware. The real problem with AI, relative to the internet boom, is that the more you use it, the more expensive it is. The economies of scale to be taken advantage of are minimal.

          I do think price of compute will come down, but exactly because people will be running their own open source models on their own hardware instead of Sam Altman to stack GPUs in a warehouse, but it will still be too expensive and inaccurate.

          And we’re still headed for a financial cliff in this scenario.

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            Like a fraction of a percent of people will run their own models. It won’t influence price. Remember that coders/tech people are only a minority of users.

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              Oh, I see. I was mistaken. I thought tech companies were OpenAI’s major customers, and they certainly could make their own data centers for internal work, and that coders–that minority of users–were the only ones likely to pay full price for tokens, the rest of us wouldn´t be willing to pay full fare for a machine that is right most of the time sort of. Thanks for setting me straight on that.

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      13 hours ago

      My company is at the July stage. Who knew giving people unrestricted access to Claude enterpise with no training would blow through budgets in days

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        12 hours ago

        I think this was the standard management reaction across all the companies that embraced AI as if it was the second coming of Jesus Christ.

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          11 hours ago

          They thought it was their ticket to fire everybody, and the more they made you use it the sooner they could fire you.

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            10 hours ago

            Soon, the guys upstairs will realise that the real savings are in replacing the middle management with agents, not replacing the workers. Fingers crossed.

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                  9 hours ago

                  I was a PM at a major now-hyperscaler and one of the engineers on my team was pretty vocal about PM not contributing.

                  He ended up leaving for a team that didn’t have one. A few years later I happened to be in his new building, he saw me, and came up with this huge grin on his face, “oh wow are you joining our team?”

                  You always hate the chick writing the specs until you don’t have one any more. 😂

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      I feel like we’re co-workers, with how perfectly that timeline matched the day-job’s progression.

      We’re at “did you take the seminar on looping that uses tokens like a firehouse so you can use less tokens? Why are you using too little (/not enough) tokens, and why is it not magically 10x-ing all of your (fucking ansible) config?” Or some shit.