Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words of wisdom.
Not to mention that no one brings their kids to drag shows. But everyone takes their kid to church, and a lot of churches even have daycares attached where you can leave them all day.
Drag performers sometimes do child friendly events such as story time, but there’s nothing sexual about those events. In fact, it’s no question why kids would be drawn to being read stories by someone in a whimsical costume.
Fwiw, even burlesque performers sometimes do family friendly events (for obvious reason they do an outfit change rather than a strip tease). Anyone who does adult shows is very aware of the line between family friendly and not, and likely knows the local blue laws better than anyone else
Yes, I know.
However, I would prefer them to be at drag story time.
Sprinkler thought, this is a no-brainer
that’s a really hot take
Oh, really?
•music too loud
•choke on rhinestone that flew off during dancing
•crushed between two sweaty drag queens
•drugs sometimes
Oh, wait, you said safer. Yeah.
Were you describing what happens at church?
Wait, your church has drugs (sometimes)?
Always has.
Any place where individuals hold a position of trust and authority is going to attract all kinds of abusers.
Which is why people in such positions should be held to a higher standard
Agreed
No problem with trans or drag shows but why do they do them for children? Would a burlesque show be available for children?
Would a burlesque show be available for children?
Yes, burlesque performers sometimes do family friendly events. They typically do outfit changes or character work, not strip teases for obvious reason.
Regardless, drag isn’t inherently sexual. It can be made sexual for an adult context but on its own, it’s costuming and character work.
You should see what child beauty pageants are like before you even grab that stone
I certainly don’t think they are acceptable either. 😂
I’m gonna throw you a bone for that
Uninformed straight white guy here: Drag does not intrinsically share the sexualization commonly associated with modern use of the term burlesque. But, yes, a burlesque show that doesn’t mistakenly assume that burlesque is entirely about stripping/nudity might in fact be available for children.
The drag shows I’ve seen advertised certainly look sexual. Corsets, push up bras etc etc. Just be trans person and talk to kids if it’s to help then. No need to dress up like a 70s transvestite.
As a transgender performer myself who constantly has to deal with people thinking I’m a drag performer because I’m trans, please don’t conflate the two. Drag is a costume. Trans is not. It is possible to be trans and do drag, but it’s not even the default tbh. It’s mostly gay cis men in my experience.
Also, there’s nothing inherently sexual about a corset otherwise you wouldn’t see them all over renfaires and comic conventions. Same with bras, half the population wears them on a daily basis
Interesting. I get drag performers and have been to a few shows back in the day. I understand trans and trans kids. I don’t understand the connection between drag and kids though.
To me it would make much more sense to have regular trans people teach the kids about the issues facing them.
Help me out here
There isn’t one. Trans and drag are entirely separate things. We may cross paths often as allies but it’s not inherent.
As trans people, we may advocate for better care for trans children (typically in the form of social support and at most informed access to puberty delayers) but that has nothing to do with drag shows. We just exist, much like anyone else, living 24/7 as our preferred gender. You wouldn’t notice if you passed us on the street:
Drag performers on the other hand are just that, performers. They entertain audiences much like a juggler or a magician might. Sometimes that’s performing in adult-only shows (typically in bars), other times it’s reading to children or lip syncing Lady Gaga. They wear over the top costumes and act dramatically but at the end of the day it’s just a costume. You’d know if you passed a drag performer on the street:
I don’t blame you for any confusion since conservatives have been trying to muddle the waters ever since they learned the word drag, in part as a scare tactic to demonize trans people and make us scarier than we are. But there’s no reason to fear either.
Drag IS NOT the same thing as being trans.
Drag artists are performers who can adjust their shows for different audiences.
I personally don’t like enjoy drag, but it’s more than RuPaul.
So drag performers dress sexually to explain inclusion to children but they aren’t trans. Did I get that right?
I thought the whole purpose was so that trans children don’t feel outcast or different. Wouldn’t it be better to have trans people talking to them instead of drag queens? “Edited due to horrible typo”
No, you didn’t get it right. You did manage to out yourself as a bigoted imbecile though, so grats on that.
Go back to Fox News and jerk off there instead. kthxbai
With all due respect, you have no idea what you’re talking about and trying to pick fights instead of learning.
What the fuck does Hamas have to do with anything in this thread?
Grow up or fuck off to the kid’s table with Zuckerberg and Musk.
And I’m not trying to pick a fight. I’m trying to understand and be educated.
Oops. Massive typo. Lol. Hamas should have been trans. Wtf
Well thank god the world is not limited to the two or three things you have experienced in your life.
AKA other people exist! And their lives aren’t always the exact same as yours! Fucking hell.
Recently had to file a report at a state-run insurance and they have a dedicated button on their webpage for “sexualized violence in churches”.
I do wonder, is it the churches themselves that are insured that way? Because surely the victims get paid from the lawsuit, not from insurance.
But either way, that is fucking harrowing that they have a dedicated button for it.
I get that it’s probably just a matter of “we offer insurance for this, so we’ll have a button for it”. But even that someone in a government-near position decided “kids get raped in churches so often, and we expect more cases to happen or be uncovered, so we should add an insurance for that to our portfolio”, that concept just does not fit into my brain.
Indeed. Never leave your kid alone with a priest. I was that kid.
Not a priest, but a southern baptist youth minister, I was also that kid.
I don’t know anybody, myself included certainly, who doesn’t have a story about a youth pastor.
I’m sure there are some preists who are good people, but enough of them are predators that it ain’t worth the risk
You could expand beyond just Catholics
Just one example
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/faqs-sexual-abuse-southern-baptist/
Definitely sexual abuse is not limited to Catholicism, they just had an extraordinarily structured operation of it that was understood and tolerated at the highest levels. It was a system, not a pattern of instances. That’s why they’re irrevocably associated with this.
Mormons too
Not from hellfire
They’re equally safe from said fictional punishment
Kids have a blast at drag shows.
