This country is fucked.

  • daannii@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    It’s also not good to force others to execute someone.

    It either gives them PTSD or gives them a lust for more murdering.

    Bad either way.

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      6 days ago

      I think that sort of thing is usually a volunteer detail, so I don’t imagine they’d force someone if there’s people willing to do it.

      I personally wouldn’t have an issue shooting this particular guy.

  • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Seems like as good a place as any to ask…there doesn’t seem to be any great way to kill a person. I used to think asphyxiation by nitrogen was the ideal for a dignified and gentle death, but I guess that has issues. So has anyone anywhere developed a method that isn’t so terrible or unreliable?

    What about something super instant and imperceptible…like being given general anesthetic and having the head (or entire body) placed into some kind of superfast pneumatic crushing machine that works in a fraction of an second and has a self-cleaning feature? Guaranteed death that no one has to see or clean up and isn’t felt by the executed person?

    That being said, I’m opposed to the death sentence. Not because I don’t think there are crimes for which a person deserves to die, but because of the potential for a false accusation.

    Our species is so heinous.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      The problem you’re going to have is that there simply is no good way to kill someone that does not want to die.

      It does not matter how painless it is. It doesn’t even matter if it feels good. they will resist, just as soon as they realize what’s happening.

      Something like the sarco pods rely on the willingness and desire of the people using them. (Or at least, for the intended purpose). If you tried to use them for executions, the victim would resist the moment they saw it.

      If you try it sedate them, they’ll resist the sedation. If you try to slip something in the food, they’ll stop eating, etc.

      The problem isn’t the method. The problem is it’s inhumane on its own.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.works
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        6 days ago

        This guy openly admitted that he wished he died in the attack because it meant God had chosen him for martyrdom.

        Not sure why everyone seems to think this guy is a good guy.

        • Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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          Nobody thinks he’s a good guy, but unless you have something wrong with you killing someone is hard, especially if they are defenseless.

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            5 days ago

            I’m of the opinion we shouldn’t, simply because we’re giving him exactly what he wants and I’m pretty sure he’s in a living hell right now. But that does beg the question - is letting someone live as a paraplegic when they want to die morally sound? Even if they want to be a martyr?

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          5 days ago

          “The guy is nit a good guy!” Is not a justification to kill him.

          He is in prison. He will never be released. His ability to commit further terrorist acts are effectively eliminated.

          There is no moral, ethical, or pragmatic reason to kill him. It is unjustified, and in my belief, murder.

          There are entire tomes of reasons of why making a spectical of his murder isn’t just wrong, but fucking stupid.

          Not least because it will be celebrated by other terrorists.

          not to mention, it puts you in league with these assholes. (Trigger warning, picture of an execution)

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      A gram of fentanyl intravenously will kill you dead real quick. Or even just swallowed. Maybe even just looked at sideways

      But my vote is for stampeded by gerbils.

      • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        Yeah, guillotine was the inspiration, but it has baggage in the form of post-drop lingering consciousness for a few moments.

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    5 days ago

    I think the research is pretty overwhelming that death penalty is not good for society. Most of the world has moved on.

    Why is US still at stone age?

    • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      He doesn’t have the strength and balance, but I could see him selling the “opportunity” to one of his buddies.

  • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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    He murdered 13 people, I’m okay with this. I’m generally against the death penalty, but these mass murderers are caught red-handed, there’s no question that he’s guilty.

    If I was in charge, I wouldn’t televise it, but he would have been executed a long time ago. Not a decade after the crime.

    • SippyCup@lemmy.world
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      Any power granted to the state will be abused by the state. Accepting the death penalty here accepts it every time.

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        6 days ago

        They want project strength and please their followers with blood, like the public executions in the middle ages

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      5 days ago

      he believed he was protecting Muslims and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

      This means he’s a prisoner of war.