• manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
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    The eagle is clutching arrows, representing a fasces, the root of the word fascism, representing the power of the state. Traditionally depicted with an axe at the centre, a fasces was a tool used by the roman armu to discipline soldiers. An axe for decapetation, rods for beating.

    these things are everywhere un modern nation states, but I’m told it’s not important, it doesnt mean what i think it means.

    it is also the root of the word f*ggot, a bundle of sticks.

    :3

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      It is ironic that his flavour of fascism includes adoring israel not hating it. Anyway, he’s not smart enough to be a very successful villain, hope to see him removed soon

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    Just because he idolizes the nazi military doesn’t mean he’s a nazi. He is of course. But that’s not why, everything else he does is why.

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        Honestly the Nazis were not this Uber competent group. Tons of in-fighting, poor strategic and logistical choices, and they did not run the government nor country in this rigid orderly way that is and was projected by their propaganda.

        I would say they had a very good propaganda campaign that’s still ongoing and paying dividends. Once you look under the surface some and start learning more about how the country was governed it becomes clear there was plenty of room for improvement.

        I mean, think about it this way, they chose to commit an industrial genocide on a hellacious scale wasting men, material and destroying the soul of a nation. How much more manpower would they have had if they didn’t commit these crimes against humanity and instead had drafted these folks.

        Like I know it’s not a great comparison or awesome though experiment and lacking any nuance but I think it makes a point.

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          Yeah that dividend still pays out, it’s insane. Take a country that ruins itself so badly so quickly, and the propaganda works anyways ??! The human brain is wild.

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        yeahhhhh but just barely, hitler was just ass much of a fucking nut-job as trump… he advised his generals to read less sun tzu and more karl may; a children’s book author, who wrote stories about cowboys and indians, who had never even visited the US.

        this would be like trump telling hegseth to read more harry potter to figure out how to strategize better in the straight of hormuz…

        fascists are always incompetent, because they are fucking clowns…

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    I’m not saying this image is generated, but it is at least a little bit weird that a reverse image search only shows this specific comparison. I even tried Google Images for a “Visual Match” instead of just Tineye, and nothing.

    That, and Hitler’s eyes look weird, and the folded Nazi flags in the back look garbled. Circumstantially, it’d be extremely fucking weird if whoever planned this layout put a plant obstructing the view of the symbol on the podium. And what the hell would that cut-off, stark white symbol at the bottom right be?

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    Symbols are for the symbol minded - George Carlin

    The thing that makes this regime similar to the Nazis isn’t the way they draw eagles.

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      19 hours ago

      The new name is oddly truthful, really not in line with their common stance on truth.

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        for being a ‘department of war’, one would think they’d actually be good at it.

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          Interestingly “ministry of war” used to be quite frequent names for these institutions. The “defense” euphemism only came later in many countries. Austria-Hungary also had a “Kriegsministerium” (“war ministry”). It also had a much more badass double headed eagle bolted onto the building. Well, the building still has, after the country started a big war that was also the last thing that ministry did.

          https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia04.meinbezirk.at%2Farticle%2F2024%2F03%2F01%2F3%2F38736453_XXL.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=bb3075f40aeff447cf708abd0b8c9b89fbfe1ccb42fc580c740792f4717615a0&ipo=images

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            I mean, I get and like the honesty. But keep in mind the administration that’s doing this; it’s different when a fascist country says “ministry of war” from when, say, a country like New Zealand or some other innocuous country like Norway or Portugal or current day Japan.

            When the current fascist-US admin says they’re going to be ultra aggressive, they not only end up being ultra aggressive, but they end up being ultra ultra aggressive and fascist.

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              I get your point, but Austro-Hungary started WW1, not nothing either. The reason I was mentioning it is that the US might just as well be in its late days imperialism. One of these wars might actually end the days of US Empire.

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                Will end the days of US empire. That’s the plan.

                trump is not your typical fascist strongman. He is an intentionally destructive force, sent in to make the country insolvent and unmanageable. So the old structure can be saddled with the debt of the people and organizations that are destroying it, and its physical resources can be parted-out.

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    Obama raised his Hand like Hitler while waving. It was only for a few moments. What are we even going at atp?

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      Always with the whataboustism.

      Alright, let’s play.

      A guy who hasn’t been in charge of anything of consequence in a decade once did a thing where he raised his arm.

      Whatabout ICE murdering people. Whatabout violating the constitution and trying to get rid of right of citizenship. Whatabout violation of the constitution about detainment without cause. Whatbout pulling aid from organizations that kept children alive, causing their deaths. Whatbout violating arms length financial dealing rules. Whatabout deragulating climate policies and making the world objectively fucking worse. Whatbout starting a war that was settled before someone had to put their eensy mushroom stamp on it and caused a global financial meltdown. Whatbout the fucking rapes. Whatabout the fucking cons and grifts.

      But yeah… Obama raised his arm…

      I could go on for hours whatabouting.

      Instead I will say everyone in that administration is a garbage human being supporting a garbage human being and anyone who thinks they are OK or handwaves away their atrocities is also a garbage human being.

      They all deserve to burn in the hell they claim to believe in.

      Edit: I will also add, anyone who tries to whatabout away atrocities is also a garbage human being.

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        Always with the whataboustism.

        More a vulgar critique of asthetics without regard for material policy.

        I might go with “Hitler Also Invaded North Africa” if I wanted a proper comparison. But you’ll get mega-yelled-at if you draw a straight line between Operation Odyssey Lightning and Operation Sonnenblume.

        anyone who tries to whatabout away atrocities

        President Obama, who hoped to sow peace, instead led the nation in war

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          Deflecting to a guy who has been out of power for a decade is still whataboutism. I don’t give a shit about litigating Obama’s record when we’re actively dealing with someone far fucking worse right now.

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            a guy who has been out of power for a decade

            You keep bringing up this Adolf fellow, but he hasn’t been in power in a long time. So why would he be relevant?

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              Nobody in this thread brought up “Adolf” except you, one comment ago.

              Imagine trying to smugly lecture someone on history only to get completely clowned by your own post history two inches above your reply.

              Arguing with your own hallucinations must be exhausting.

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        Yes my comment is sh’te, yes I didn’t care for the humour in this post, yes I decided to engage in this post. Everything you just said SHOULD though be taken seriously, 'cause it is not just a massive problem but just grotesque, against human rights and absolute fkery.

        So, what I’m going at, my comment deserves the hate, but not 'cause of my supposed world views, but rather 'cause I just didn’t care for the joke for once.

        I’m not going to delete my comment 'cause I know I would do the same as you all.

        Pretty sure it is 'cause I’m just pissed off of my fellow leftists doing extreme / just dumb things and saying extreme / just dumb things.

        Cheers