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    The Dollhouse.

    A bunch of hyper-sexualized women held in coffins against their will in a state of childlike innocence. Intermittently, they have personalities downloaded into them, using computer technology, making them Alpha-powered super-assassins.

    When one of them gets too woke, she is suppressed, coerced, and gaslit into buying back into the fascist agenda of the faceless corporation running the Dollhouse.

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      23 hours ago

      It’s just called Dollhouse

      They also have men not just women.

      And it’s basically like Westworld except they have more personalities vs just western.

      Its actually a very good show and is anti capitalist/ rich crazies

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      Did you not finish the show? There’s an entire apocalypse and redemption arc you’re just glossing over.

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        I did.

        Do you me the Apocalypse wherein anyone ::: spoiler spoiler could be reprogrammed over a loudspeaker, or a telephone call ::: ?

        As we lurch toward our own Apocalypse — take your pick between environmental, economic, technological, political, nuclear, or any combination thereof — it seems that Epstein-island espionage elicits ick in every instance.

        That’s most of the series.

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      As someone who’s never seen this, this sounds like a good premise for something horribly dystopian. Unless the series isn’t about how terrible this is…

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        Yes, they wind it down.

        spoiler

        Most of the world is destroyed and they iced Helo (Tahmoh Penikett) for no good reason but shock.

        And the good guys pull off a very Pyrrhic victory. Closing the Dollhouse before they figured out how to make scenario: techno-nightmare happen would have made the series shorter. But, I’m pretty sick of the “we can’t put the tech genie back in the bottle” defense. Under this ideal, every tech needs to grow to Godzilla size or fade into obsolescence.

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    Oprah.

    That cunt gave the anti vaccine idiots a platform and two charlatans a stage.

    Fuck Oprah, fuck “dr.” Phil and especially fuck dr. Oz!

    Oh and The Apprentice

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      Watching Friends without the laugh track Is fucking surreal. There’s so much dead time. So many frames of actors just staring at each other lol

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      If there was a live audience that makes more acceptable for me, I just think of it like a stage play.

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    Cops. To see how they just pummel people to the ground or pull their guns for the smallest of things is unsettling to watch. Also, the treatment of female officers.

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      A ton of COPS was filmed in pierce county Washington, where I grew up, I still think about how that undoubtedly changed my life in likely imperceptible ways to this day

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      24 was insanely good when it was a new thing and then quickly devolved into “wait, you’re torturing a teenager on a hunch and that’s okay?”. Not worth the rewatch.

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      My favorite part of that is when he has to drive across the city. It would be like an entire episode of him sitting in traffic. They neglect it entirely.

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        Most everything in 24 could be solved with a text message. Later seasons they had to get creative just to explain why cell phones were out of the picture.

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    Scrolling through this, a few thoughts come to mind:

    1. I forgot how deep into the decade Friends went, and it was definitely well past its sell-by date several seasons before it ended.
    2. Will & Grace probably best fits as a show that aged poorly, though it was groundbreaking in putting gay characters front and center at all.
    3. As shows that won’t be remembered as fondly because they’re cringey relics of their era, it’s a dead heat between Sex and the City and Entourage. Entourage is worse, but I think contemporary viewers already knew that.
    4. Honorable mention to Joss Whedon and Ricky Gervais personally making their classic shows a lot harder to enjoy.
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        I started to really dislike him when I saw the special features on Extras and he led the charge being a complete piece shit to some production assistant.

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          To Stephen or to Karl? Are we okay with the idea that UK pisstakes are a little more harsh than our delicate American ears are accustomed to?

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            I don’t remember that level of detail and it is possible there’s some context I missed. But it really came across as the show’s A-lister bullying some kid who would be out on his ass if he tried to stand up for himself and it didn’t sit right with me.

            Ashley Jensen did step in at one point and help the guy out, so I liked her

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      What are your thoughts on SaTC? I’m sporadically re-watching it and it seems pretty solid. Maybe comically conservative for such an “edgy” show, but nothing horrible. The writing, directing, and acting is top notch. I’m just in Season 3 at the end of the affair with Big (Mrs. Big falls down the stairs chasing Carrie).

      From what I understand, Carrie completely goes off the rail in the movies, and the writing doesn’t call her out, but I don’t know why that should retroactively condemn the entire series; so far, I’m leaning towards the youtube media pundit set wanting morality tales instead of deeply flawed and interesting characters.

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        Deeply flawed and vapid, but sure. The problem is they don’t get their comeuppance and their worst traits are not even played for comedy, unlike Sunny, Seinfeld, Curb, Arrested Development… It always left a bad taste in my mouth, but I didn’t watch much (my mom watched it some times, those are the only times I caught it) so maybe the more problematic ones had good arcs and developed into more likeable characters. TBF, I also didn’t like Breaking Bad because a terminal cancer diagnosis does not morally allow one to become a murderous drug lord, lol, and I don’t wanna follow a character I can only hate. 🤷‍♂️

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          I also didn’t like Breaking Bad because a terminal cancer diagnosis does not morally allow one to become a murderous drug lord

          That’s not the plot at all. His terminal cancer diagnosis had him confront the fact that his family was in dire trouble with him gone. He used his knowledge of chemistry (as a teacher) to produce and sell a little meth, as this was his only means of helping his family. The modern equivalent of “stealing a loaf of bread”, and all that.

          His whole life, he was a bit of a square loser. Society didn’t respect him or his disabled son. Once he realized what this new world allowed, he slowly was consumed by the power it gave him. This corrupted him and snowballed gradually into a murderous drug lord.

          The point is, we all have the potential to become that. You see it in rich people (especially billionaires). You see it in politicians. It’s a classic tale of power corrupting, coming from a slightly different angle. The writers and cast also corrupt the viewer by slowly making them root for the anti-hero, which ought to be a reality check for those watching.

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            Honestly what killed that show for me was in the like second episode or whatever when his rich friend offered to just pay for the cancer treatment and Walter refused because he was too proud.

            I get that that’s the point of the story, to show that he chose all of this. But it made his character just too deeply unsympathetic for me. Just take your rich friend’s money, ya jackass.

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              Fair, and I guess it depends on how you view the world. Me? Yeah I’m not proud, I’ll take the money. But I also know people who absolutely would not. I think it comes back to him always being disrespected by society and thinking that charity would continue that disrespect.

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                That’s not pride, that’s deep insecurity and weakness turning into sociopathic selfishness and rage. That’s not a protagonist for me, but hey my wife liked the show so you know, it’s just a matter of sensibilities I guess. 🤷‍♂️👍

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          Yeah, SaTC is definitely one of those shows that farms the relatibility of its characters and errs on the side of protecting that identification over condemning the characters. It also can’t go too far in that direction because there is a political project to bring independent, liberated women to the screen–though of course, centering every story around chasing men absolutely undercuts the whole thing. I agree it is flawed, but wouldn’t characterize it as vapid; it’s pretty sharp IMO.

          I couldn’t put up with BB, too intense! But I think you’re probably missing out on a lot of good shows if you don’t watch them because of some simplistic moral judgment you overheard, I understand the show is quite a bit more complex than “here’s your free pass to be a bad guy and let’s celebrate together”, though ANY time violence is involved, you get chuds with no emotional depth and desperate power-craving fantasies who fall in love it with for the wrong reasons; just like there is an argument that no truly-anti-war movie has ever been made.

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    eureka. i tried to rewatch it recently and its… oof. one of the main characters has an autistic son who is a savant and they talk about hopefully finding a cure for autism someday. meanwhile pretty much all the scientists and engineers show actual autistic traits that im sure the writers thought were just quirky smart people traits. meanwhile the sheriffs house is voiced by a male character trying to do a womans voice and haha isnt it funny how its kind of inappropriate towards him constantly because its a dude doing a girl voice? then the constant perpetuation of stereotypes, nerd/jock bullshit, and really bad science thats just magic with a technological paint job.

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    I tried rewatching How I Met Your Mother and couldn’t get more than a few episodes in because I was so bored. I’m sure my getting older is partly to blame (not as engaged by the unrealistic exploits of some mid 20-somethings), but also Friends-style comedy feels outdated now.

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      I tried watching it for the first time like 5 years ago because of all the memes and to understand why people kept mentioning it and I couldn’t last one episode.