Not current, but a possible counter point would have been Nelson Mandela.
I had a longer title in mind that said there was a small chance of it being a great thing, but a much higher chance of it being a really, really bad thing
Not a country leader, but Zohran Madani is quite well known
Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, and Queen Elizabeth were known for their positive contributions
If you say “I can’t wait for him to die” and the whole world thinks of the same person, it’s probably pretty damn bad
On the flip side. Let him stay long enough to destroy his movement.
Don’t bring Melania into this.
Case and point: José Alberto “Pepe” Mujica Cordano is afaik the most famous “objectively good guy” president and you’ve probably never heard of him.
Part of a Marxist-Leninist urban guerrilla group fighting a democratically elected center-right government. Mujica was variously the sole survivor of a mission to take a telephone exchange, shot six times fighting multiple policemen (he injured two), part of four prison escapes, and lost his mind after years of solitary confinement.
They may not have known his name, but there was a time when (hopefully soon to be former) New Zealand prime minister Chris Luxon became the face of shitty landlords the world over.
On the other hand, “Jacinda” was suddenly commonly heard admiringly at many kitchen tables around the world for a brief time.
A Reddit link, In this economy ?
funny though
Yeah, sorry, it was the only place I could find the meme.
That’s the problem, people think of Trump as the cause
He’s the result.
When your government is for sale, the elected are greedy, ruthless, amoral villains.
Trump is stupid, we’ll miss him when someone brilliantly evil “wins”.
Except for Obama. A lot of people outside the US knew Obama, and loved/love him.
Trump everyone knows, and hates.
So both sides of the coin here.
Yeah, lots of people knew his name and hated him. And I’m not talking US racists. I’m talking the friends and family of innocent people he killed with drone strikes.
Can’t make an omelet without cracking a few eggs my friend.
I’ve never once had to bomb a wedding or extra judicially kill an American citizen to make an omlet.
What exactly is the omelette in this analogy, war crimes?
Hmmmm…
I give you Mark Carney.
Who?
There’s plenty of people who don’t know about pol pot.







