Recently it’s come to my attention that Caddy has an AI sponsor so I have been looking at moving away from Caddy.
I’m currently looking for another reverse proxy to use in place of Caddy. For TLS I am looking into using CertBot and it appears there’s a module (https://github.com/desec-io/certbot-dns-desec) I can use that works for https://desec.io/ to handle my certs.
I have two questions, the first is about CertBot. Since Caddy is handling my certs automatically, how often would I want to renew my certs? Desec.io has this command to obtain a cert:
certbot certonly \
--authenticator dns-desec \
--dns-desec-credentials /etc/letsencrypt/secrets/$DOMAIN.ini \
-d "$DOMAIN" \
-d "*.$DOMAIN"
Would I be required to run the same command periodically to renew my cert?
My second question is a bit more open ended. I am looking to hear any suggestions or experiences about different reverse proxies that are preferably free of AI. There is a list here with some suggested alternatives: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#web-servers
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I use Traefik as my reverse proxy and it deals with my certs automatically.
Keep in mind just because Caddy has an AI sponsor, it doesn’t mean they are using ai products, it could be the AI platform is using caddy and gave done the bare minimum of sponsoring the project.
Traefik merge code written by AI, f.e. https://github.com/traefik/traefik/pull/13397
As do Caddy, such as https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/pull/7492 and https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/pull/7666I personally feel like taking money from an AI sponsor is enabling behaviour. From that perspective, I do not want to support that type of behaviour.
What about nixos and nginx
I think pivoting to BSD is the easiest way to find solutions that aren’t tainted by AI.
https://www.openbsdhandbook.com/relayd/An example of OpenBSD denying AI code contributions:
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=177411620801633&w=2edit: Seems even OpenBSD is tainted nowadays, from your own link https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/9c2b8e445a0bdfafdd6148b1760f00aa5429627b and https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/e9af5eb5a61d189327b553b24d0d31f19c64b63f
edit 2: Here’s the only relevant mail threads I found regarding the AI contributions in openbsd
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=177513420401322&w=2
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=177573214912349&w=2Careful now
(I hope a little bit of tomfoolery is allowed here)
Not glamour but
haproxymay be worth the look.HAProxy seems like it’s always overlooked. I have been using it for years myself, pretty solid and just works.
If you run pfSense you can also use HAProxy with a GUI.
I used traefik in the past, but moved to Caddy a while ago. In traefik I had to restart the service to apply the renewed certificate, which I found annoying. Caddy on the other hand just works<- Edit: might be wrongAnyway, are you using anything by the Linux Foundation?
I use Alpine Linux so yeah, I am using something by Linux
It’s not ideal but I don’t have the time to find alternatives for everything all at once, just one thing at a time which is the pace I am going. I’ll deal with it when the time comes but it’s in the back of my mind
Not about certs, but I found the opposite moving from Caddy to Traefik: in amending the caddyfile, I had to restart the Caddy service which would kill any open connections that were being used. In Traefik, it’s dynamic, so can update the services without having to restart Traefik itself.
My main move to Traefik was due to file transfers for reverse proxy services like File Browser slowing down after a period of time, whereas in Traefik, they stayed at a constant speed.
I now run Traefik as part of Pangolin, so most config is set by that.
Whaaat?
I have auto renewing certs on my traefik instance and never had to renew my config except if I modified the config.yml…Hm… Maybe then I’m confusing it with the cert renewal in Home Assistant.
